Trump. And why I hate him.

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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by Bundokji » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:50 am

aflatun wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:52 pm
Keep up the good work DooDoot :twothumbsup:
I second that :heart:
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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by Sam Vara » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:00 am

chownah wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:48 am
lyndon taylor wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:39 pm
I don't think its wrong to hate evil!!
Which will suffer most, you or evil?
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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by lyndon taylor » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:22 am

I think I will suffer less if I hate evil, If I love evil I'm bound to suffer!!
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by binocular » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:32 am

Does Mara suffer?

Should we sympathize with Mara?
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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by retrofuturist » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:36 am

Greetings,

Aversion is akusala, whether one regards it as righteous or not.

Metta,
Paul. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by Pseudobabble » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:10 am

lyndon taylor wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:39 pm
I don't think its wrong to hate evil!!
Dhammapada Yamakavagga 5 wrote:Hostilities aren't stilled
through hostility,
regardless.
Hostilities are stilled
through non-hostility:
this, an unending truth.
Sorry Lyndon.
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"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta


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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by lyndon taylor » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:32 am

I think from a Buddhist perspective, hating evil is better than loving Trump!!
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

http://trickleupeconomictheory.blogspot.com/

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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by retrofuturist » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:48 am

Greetings,
lyndon taylor wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:32 am
I think from a Buddhist perspective, hating evil is better than loving Trump!!
From a Buddhist perspective, hate is evil.

Metta,
Paul. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by lyndon taylor » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:01 am

Loving Trump is evil too.
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by retrofuturist » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:06 am

Greetings Lyndon,

If it's "love" borne of attachment and greed, then it may well be.

Yet, if it's borne of openness / loving-kindess, compassion or wisdom, then it's a very good thing.

Metta,
Paul. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by binocular » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:12 am

lyndon taylor wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:32 am
I think from a Buddhist perspective, hating evil is better than loving Trump!!
There are far more options than just either "hate evil" or "love Trump." If nothing else, one can be indifferent to Trump.
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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by lyndon taylor » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:03 am

binocular wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:12 am
lyndon taylor wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:32 am
I think from a Buddhist perspective, hating evil is better than loving Trump!!
There are far more options than just either "hate evil" or "love Trump." If nothing else, one can be indifferent to Trump.
Maybe you're not one of the people that stands to directly suffer from Trump's policies, I am!!
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

http://trickleupeconomictheory.blogspot.com/

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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by Pseudobabble » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:13 am

lyndon taylor wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:03 am
binocular wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:12 am
lyndon taylor wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:32 am
I think from a Buddhist perspective, hating evil is better than loving Trump!!
There are far more options than just either "hate evil" or "love Trump." If nothing else, one can be indifferent to Trump.
Maybe you're not one of the people that stands to directly suffer from Trump's policies, I am!!
That is fair enough - it's very very difficult not to feel animosity toward someone who is harming you, your life, your options.
"Does Master Gotama have any position at all?"

"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta


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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by lyndon taylor » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:14 am

Its not just me, he's harming most of the people in this country, while his super rich friends get all the benefits taken from the rest of us.
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

http://trickleupeconomictheory.blogspot.com/

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Re: Trump. And why I hate him.

Post by binocular » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:39 pm

True. But how does hating Trump make anything better for you?
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