alan wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:40 am
Here is why I hate Trump, and why you should, too.
binocular wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:25 am
This post is clearly against the TOS:
g. Attacks against the Buddha, Dhamma, or Sangha, which violate the Intention of this forum (See Section 1. Intention for details)
Indulging in hatred and calling upon others to do so is undhammic.
binocular wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:47 am
He clearly called for hatred, which is undhammic!
There is and always has been a lot of undhammic discussion here. What with the authoritarianism
And how is "attacking" Trump an attack against Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha. Since when has Trump anything to do with Buddha, Dhamma or Sangha? Seriously. I'm cereal
. I find it "problematic"
) to conflate these two or give the impression of such a conflation or supposed connection.
I would take Alan's "call for hatred" about just as serious as retro's implication of Trump being a universal monarch.
That is just normal shitposting
which has been an ancient custom here and across the web since beginningless time.
We should keep the Buddha's teachings on the causes for a nation's (or forum's) welfare or decline (referring to the example of the Vajjians
) in mind.
But actually, no, I find Alan's venting much less serious. Retro's shitposting could be taken serious by unsuspecting naive people, and I think that is much more undhammic and worth a rebuttal.
It has been fortold:
DN 26: Cakkavatti-Sῑhanāda Sutta wrote:
23. ‘Among the people with an eighty thousand-year lifespan, girls will become marriageable at five hundred. And such people will know only three kinds of disease: greed, fasting, and old age. And in the time of those people this continent of Jambudipa will be powerful and prosperous, and villages, towns and cities will be but a cock’s flight one from the next. This Jambudipa, like Avῑci, will be as thick with people as the jungle is thick with reeds and rushes. At that time the Vārānasi of today will be a royal city called Ketumatῑ, powerful and prosperous, crowded with people and well-supplied. In Jambudipa there will be eighty-four thousand cities headed by Ketumati as the royal capital.
24. ‘And in the time of the people with an eighty thousand-year life-span, there will arise in the capital city of Ketumati a king called Sankha, a wheel-turning monarch, a righteous monarch of the law, conqueror of the four quarters... (as verse 2).
25. ‘And in that time of the people with an eighty thousand-year life-span, there will arise in the world a Blessed Lord, an Arahant fully-enlightened Buddha named Metteyya, endowed with wisdom and conduct, a Well-Farer, Knower of the worlds, incomparable Trainer of men to be tamed, Teacher of gods and humans, enlightened and blessed, just as I am now. He will thoroughly know by his own super-knowledge, and proclaim, this universe with its devas and maras and Brahmas, its ascetics and Brahmins, and this generation with its princes and people, just as I do now. He will teach the Dhamma, lovely in its beginning, lovely in its middle, lovely in its ending, in the spirit and in the letter, and proclaim, just as I do now, the holy life in its fullness and purity. He will be attended by a company of thousands of monks, just as I am attended by a company of hundreds.
26. ‘Then King Sankha will re-erect the palace once built by King Mahā-Panāda804 and, having lived in it, will give it up and present it to the ascetics and Brahmins, the beggars, the wayfarers, the destitute. Then, shaving off hair and beard, he will don yellow robes and go forth from the household life into homelessness under the supreme Buddha Metteyya. Having gone forth, he will remain alone, in seclusion, ardent, eager and resolute, and before long he will have attained in this very life, by his own super-knowledge and resolution, that unequalled goal of the holy life, for the sake of which young men of good family go forth from the household life into homelessness, and will abide therein.
First there's supposed to be that "sword-interval" where people butcher each other for seven days, and after that, a slow slow... rebuilding of civilization. And all that long time after the last Buddha's teachings have been forgotten. And only then
will appear this wheel-turning emperor and Buddha Metteyya at the same time.
So... it's not yet time for a wheel-turning emperor.
Srsly retro... wheel-turning emperor Trump. What the Avici.
(I think you're not cereal about this, but... cereally... problematic
... so problematic
[I have not even read more than some half sentences of what's written in these links, but just included them to make sue everyone understands I'm cereal.