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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Stiphan » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:18 pm

Will wrote:
Do all the good you can,
By all the means you can,
In all the ways you can,
In all the places you can,
At all the times you can,
To all the beings you can,
As long as ever you can,
To the absolute 100% utmost that you possibly can,
In the most immaculate way that you can,
And then teach others the same, because you not only can, but you actually ought to, because they, too, can;
And then the peace the world would become I'm not even sure imagine you can.
John Wesley (+a bit of me)
From today on, I vow to live my life by this quote.

Just googled and wikipediaed him briefly. Seems like a wise and good man, doesn't bother me for being Christian...

...after a brief Google search it seems it may be a misquote... so I can't say who said it, and it doesn't really matter.
https://vitalpiety.com/2013/04/29/wesle ... s-you-can/


And so, I go off social media and some other preoccupations (they're good, but I've got to work on things) in order to do what I can.

I will be back some time next year.

Yes, we [all] can. ~ Barack O.
Just do it. ~ Nike Inc.
[And then] Keep walking. ~ Johnnie W.


"atha kho bhagavā bhikkhū āmantesi — “handa dāni, bhikkhave, āmantayāmi vo, vayadhammā saṅkhārā appamādena sampādethā”ti. ayaṃ tathāgatassa pacchimā vācā."
"All conditioned things are of a nature to decay — strive for your own liberation with diligence."
~The Buddha

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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Will » Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:12 am

Forgot exactly where I found that quote, but the source was supposed to be one of Wesley's Letters. There are eight volumes of them online, and I did find many times he would write "do all the good you can", but I was too lazy to look through them all.

Here are his letters, for a more diligent searcher:

http://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-l ... sley/#vol1
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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Stiphan » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:26 am

Will wrote:Forgot exactly where I found that quote, but the source was supposed to be one of Wesley's Letters. There are eight volumes of them online, and I did find many times he would write "do all the good you can", but I was too lazy to look through them all.

Here are his letters, for a more diligent searcher:

http://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-l ... sley/#vol1
Thanks. As I said, it's not really important whether Wesley said them or the Buddha said them or I said them or my neighbour said them -- they are good words that are worth living by. Thank you for sharing them as they are making a huge difference and if one puts them into practice, they will lead to great benefit for their doer and for the people affected by her or him.

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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Will » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:14 pm

If the words are found to be inspiring and admired, then it is only natural to bow to the one who brought them forth. Without the mind and persona of some few individuals, there would be no inspiration to notice, value and practice.
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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Will » Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:26 am

There is a wonderful French proverb which runs thus: Tout com-prendre, c'est tout pardonner: To understand everything is to forgive all. To understand all the hid causes, the results, the past destiny, the present strength, the temptation, the virtue, whatever it may be — to understand all this is to have divine knowledge, and it means to forgive. It is a wonderful proverb and must have been uttered, I venture to say, first by some human being who had a touch of illumination.
G. de Purucker "The Heritage of Man is Man Himself."
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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Will » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:31 pm

“I saw in my mind’s eye,” adds Santayana, “the ideal of the monopolist. All nations must consume the same things, in proportion to their population. All mankind will then form a perfect democracy, supplied with rations from a single centre of administration, as is for their benefit; since they will then secure everything assigned to them at the lowest possible price.” This utilitarian utopia, prophesied by Henry and Brooks Adams as the triumph of the cheapest, starves the realm of spirit and the realm of art as no other domination can. The culmination of liberalism, the fulfillment of the aspirations of Bentham and Mill, and of the French and American democratic spokesmen, it is also the completion of capitalism. It is communism. Rockefeller and Marx were merely two agents of the same social force—an appetite cruelly inimical to human individuation, by which man has struggled up to reason and art.
Excerpt From: George A. Panichas. Essential Russell Kirk.
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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Will » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:03 pm

Truth is so obscure in these times, and falsehood so established,
that unless we love the truth, we cannot know it.
Pascal
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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Will » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:41 am

Do your eyes expect a reward for seeing, or your feet for walking? That is what they were made for. By doing what they were designed to do, they are performing their function.
Whereas humans were made to help others. And when we do help others we are doing what we were designed for. We perform our function.

Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, end of book nine
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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Will » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:59 pm

The Vision of the Lord Buddha

When I was a boy of twelve I came upon a Buddhist quotation which fascinated imagination, mind, and heart. I think it was one of the things which in this life awoke me more than any other thing that I can recollect; at any rate it was one of the first. It is pure Theosophy and genuine Buddhist doctrine. It is this: the Lord Buddha is speaking, and I am paraphrasing somewhat his words in order to make them clearer:

"O disciples, never let discouragement enter into your souls. See you suffering in the world, see you unhappiness and pain and ignorance, misery and distress which wring the heart? Disciples, all things are destined to pass into Buddhahood: the stones, the plants, the beasts, all the component atoms of these, each and every one, aye, and sun and moon and stars and planets — all in future ages will become Buddha. Each one will become a Buddha."

What a marvelous picture! How it quiets the heart and stills the mind; for if one atom, one man, become a Buddha, everything will, for this universe is one, broken into multitudes during Manvantara or manifestation; rooted in that One, living from it, and by it. In it we live and we move and have all our being. Therefore some day, somewhere in the incalculable aeons of what we call the future, all now of the multitudes, suns and stars, planets, comets, gods, men, animals, plants, stones, atoms, elements, worlds, everything, each as individual, is destined for Buddhahood.

When I read that -- I have given you the expanded gist of what I heard -- for nearly three months I went around in a daze of spiritual delight and inner reawakening. To this day I could not tell you whether I ate or drank or slept. I know I must have done so, but I have no recollection of anything except light; and the raising of the eyes inner and outer, upward and inward. Just that thought broke open the doors closed when I drank of the waters of Lethe, of forgetfulness, when last I died. The doors opened and the light came in, began to come in.
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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Will » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:40 pm

The tongue may vow, but the heart will not.
Euripides
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Re: Ten ages of man

Post by Will » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:25 pm

Solon, the Athenian lawgiver, described these different ages in the following elegiac verses:

In seven years from th'’ earliest breath,
The child puts forth his hedge of teeth;

When strengthened by a similar span,
He first displays some signs of man.

As in a third, his limbs increase,
A beard buds o'’er his changing face.

When he has passed a fourth such time,
His strength and vigour’s in its prime.

When five times seven years o'’er his head
Have passed, the man should think to wed;

At forty two, the wisdom'’s clear
To shun vile deed of folly or fear:

While seven times seven years to sense
Add ready wit and eloquence.

And seven years further skill admit
To raise them to their perfect height.

When nine such periods have passed,
His powers, though milder grown, still last;

When God has granted ten times seven,
The aged man prepares for heaven.
Quoted by Philo
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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Will » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:01 pm

Truth is so obscure in these times, and falsehood so established, that, unless we love the truth, we cannot know it.
Pascal
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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Will » Mon May 15, 2017 12:30 am

We are unknown to ourselves, we men of knowledge—and with good reason. We have never sought ourselves—how could it happen that we should ever find ourselves? It has rightly been said: “Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also” [Matthew 6:21]; our treasure is where the beehives of our knowledge are. We are constantly making for them, being by nature winged creatures and honey-gatherers of the spirit...
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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Aloka » Mon May 15, 2017 6:10 am

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Re: Inspiring Words

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Love that vase

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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Kusala » Mon May 22, 2017 10:38 am

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"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;
He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;
He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "

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"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One,
Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation,
Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "

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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by lohitara » Tue May 23, 2017 3:27 am

It’s easy, very easy, to be against something. ... But being purely against ... means never being let down, and never being vulnerable. The horrors of the world descend on you, and you oppose them. But it’s not enough. There needs to be some positively articulated shared object, something that can be affirmed. It means losing some cynicism, giving up some of the invulnerability of ironism, attaching the boundless subjective I to a thing of history, that could get swept up with every other fragile thing and destroyed. But without that attachment nothing can be done. ... Demands are made on us for the sake of a liberated existence, and the first is that we be prepared to make ourselves vulnerable, and that we accept that our faith might be disappointed.
Sam Kriss.
Iminā punññakammena, mā me bālasamāgamo sataṃ samāgamo hotu, yāva nibbānapattiyā!

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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Will » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:22 pm

A kind of waking trance - this for lack of a better word - I have frequently had, quite up from boyhood, when I have been all alone. This has come upon me through repeating my own name to myself silently, till all at once, as it were out of the intensity of the consciousness of individuality, individuality itself seemed to dissolve and fade away into boundless being, and this not a confused state but the clearest, the surest of the surest, utterly beyond words - where death was an almost laughable impossibility - the loss of personality (if so it were) seeming no extinction, but the only true life... It is no nebulous ecstasy, but a state of transcendent wonder, associated with absolute clearness of mind.
Tennyson from his Memoirs; the 'loss of personality being the only true life' is quite an insight. :bow:
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Re: Inspiring Words

Post by Aloka » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:30 pm

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“Spirituality really lost its way when it became a stick to beat people with: ‘Do this or you’ll burn in hell.”

― Ricky Gervais




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