Persecution of the Rohingya

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Persecution of the Rohingya

Post by Jeffrey » Mon May 11, 2015 5:07 am

The bankruptcy of Burmese Buddhism: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32680911" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: The State Of Asian Buddhism

Post by mikenz66 » Mon May 11, 2015 5:47 am

Jeffrey wrote:The bankruptcy of Burmese Buddhism: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32680911" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Not much about Buddhism in that article. However, clearly there are intolerant people in Myanmar who happen to be Buddhist...

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Re: The State Of Asian Buddhism

Post by Jeffrey » Mon May 11, 2015 7:02 am

I don't remember the sangha protecting the Rohingya by moving into their neighborhoods, or creating blockades of monastic bodies.

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Re: Persecution of the Rohingya

Post by pilgrim » Mon May 11, 2015 7:27 am

Persecution ? If they are fleeing persecution as claimed, one wonders why they don't trek to the border of Muslim Bangladesh several hours away, instead of choosing to pay a fortune to take the risk in leaky boats to cross the high seas or trek across Thailand to the borders of Malaysia. Look at the map.

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Re: Persecution of the Rohingya

Post by Mr Man » Mon May 11, 2015 7:55 am

pilgrim wrote:Persecution ? If they are fleeing persecution as claimed, one wonders why they don't trek to the border of Muslim Bangladesh several hours away, instead of choosing to pay a fortune to take the risk in leaky boats to cross the high seas or trek across Thailand to the borders of Malaysia. Look at the map.
This is a bit old now but "Burma's Rohingya refugees find little respite in Bangladesh" http://www.theguardian.com/global-devel ... bangladesh" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Persecution of the Rohingya

Post by Kusala » Mon May 11, 2015 9:26 am

Jeffrey wrote:The bankruptcy of Burmese Buddhism: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32680911" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
According to Suu Kyi spokesman: “There is no Rohingya” http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news ... o-rohingya" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"This week, the government released its official account of Myanmar’s most explosive violence in recent years: a 2012 wave of killing, maiming and arson sprees waged in large part by Buddhists bent on ridding their native Rakhine State of the Rohingya. But nowhere in the official English translation does the word “Rohingya” appear. The minority is instead described as “Bengali,” the native people of neighboring Bangladesh.

The report insists the stateless group largely descend from farmers led over during British occupation of Myanmar (then titled Burma) in the early 1800s. They are described as procreating heavily, failing to assimilate and inviting over their kin to the dismay of helpless local Buddhists living under colonial rule. Myanmar’s authorities have since reversed the British empire’s policy: The Rohingya are now considered non-citizens even though their alleged homeland, Bangladesh, does not accept them either."
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Re: Persecution of the Rohingya

Post by waterchan » Mon May 11, 2015 9:51 pm

A few months old, but people might have missed it

Myanmar revokes Rohingya voting rights after Buddhist monks take to the streets in protest:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-31421179" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The State Of Asian Buddhism

Post by waterchan » Mon May 11, 2015 9:57 pm

Jeffrey wrote:I don't remember the sangha protecting the Rohingya by moving into their neighborhoods, or creating blockades of monastic bodies.
The sangha is heavily influenced by the government which is democratic by name but still largely authoritarian in practice. Many of the monks don't know any better, and those that do refrain from speaking out for fear of being branded heretics.
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Re: Persecution of the Rohingya

Post by lyndon taylor » Tue May 12, 2015 3:38 am

The stated position that Rohinga's don't exist sounds remarkably similar to the Zionist Israeli position that Palestinians do not exist as a people, with similar treatment of the aforementioned people in both cases.....
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Re: Persecution of the Rohingya

Post by Jeffrey » Tue May 12, 2015 4:27 am

And because the sangha refuses to act, their problem now becomes the world's problem.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/05 ... eople.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Persecution of the Rohingya

Post by mikenz66 » Tue May 12, 2015 4:54 am

Why is the sangha supposed to fix all of the social and political problems? Is that its purpose?

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Re: Persecution of the Rohingya

Post by Jeffrey » Tue May 12, 2015 5:45 am

I certainly don't expect the sangha to immediately solve all of society's ills. I don't suppose anyone does. But is there a good reason why they haven't done anything about this particular problem? The Burmese sangha proved capable of mobilization in 2007. Why not now, when the situation is more critical? Imagine what half a million red robes could do and the suffering and death seem so horribly, horribly pointless.

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Re: Persecution of the Rohingya

Post by pegembara » Tue May 12, 2015 7:10 am

The refugee problem isn't limited to Rohingyas but also Bangladeshis. Even if the Rohingya problem is resolved, you still have economic refugees from Bangladesh.

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Re: Persecution of the Rohingya

Post by waterchan » Tue May 12, 2015 9:53 am

Jeffrey wrote:The Burmese sangha proved capable of mobilization in 2007. Why not now, when the situation is more critical?
In 2007, everyone was united against the authoritarian regime. Whereas over the Rohingya issue, the Burmese sangha is more divided in opinion. A significant proportion of monks (and laypeople) still maintain the view that the Rohingya are illegal immigrants from Bangladesh. The government has officially stripped the Rohingya of citizenship, as far as I know.

As someone who lived in Burma for ten years, I don't have strong opinions either way on the legal status of the Rohingya. I've not seen strong evidence from either side of the argument.
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Re: Persecution of the Rohingya

Post by imagemarie » Wed May 27, 2015 7:01 pm

I wasn't sure where to put this. But it is a worthy appeal I think.

http://buddhistglobalrelief.me/2015/05/ ... .publishes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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