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by retrofuturist » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:46 am
Greetings,
Carl Sagan - A Glorious Dawn ft. Stephen Hawking (Cosmos Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
MP3 download: http://www.colorpulsemusic.com/Colorpul ... Remix).mp3
Lyrics:
[Sagan]
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch
You must first invent the universe
Space is filled with a network of wormholes
You might emerge somewhere else in space
Some when-else in time
The sky calls to us
If we do not destroy ourselves
We will one day venture to the stars
A still more glorious dawn awaits
Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way
The Cosmos is full beyond measure of elegant truths
Of exquisite interrelationships
Of the awesome machinery of nature
I believe our future depends powerfully
On how well we understand this cosmos
In which we float like a mote of dust
In the morning sky
But the brain does much more than just recollect
It inter-compares, it synthesizes, it analyzes
it generates abstractions
The simplest thought like the concept of the number one
Has an elaborate logical underpinning
The brain has it’s own language
For testing the structure and consistency of the world
[Hawking]
For thousands of years
People have wondered about the universe
Did it stretch out forever
Or was there a limit
From the big bang to black holes
From dark matter to a possible big crunch
Our image of the universe today
Is full of strange sounding ideas
[Sagan]
How lucky we are to live in this time
The first moment in human history
When we are in fact visiting other worlds
The surface of the earth is the shore of the cosmic ocean
Recently we’ve waded a little way out
And the water seems inviting
Metta,
Retro.

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh
"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)
"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)
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by appicchato » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:39 pm
retrofuturist wrote:...to a possible big crunch
First time I've heard this one...
Yeah, they (the quotes) kind of put a different perspective on the 'news of the day'...doesn't it?...
It's truly bizarre...what's 'it's'?...everything...
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by retrofuturist » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:53 pm
Greetings bhante,
The concept is that the forces of gravity would pull everything back together, only to create yet another big bang. It puts a new spin on the Buddhist concept of periods of world-expansion and contraction!
Metta,
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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh
"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)
"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)
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by clw_uk » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:12 pm
retrofuturist wrote:Greetings bhante,
The concept is that the forces of gravity would pull everything back together, only to create yet another big bang. It puts a new spin on the Buddhist concept of periods of world-expansion and contraction!
Metta,
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From my layman understanding the Big Crunch doesnt seem that likely (at the moment), dark energy is speeding up the expansion of the universe so if that turns out to be stronger than gravity, no crunch and just a cold, dark and dead universe
metta
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by mikenz66 » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:30 pm
clw_uk wrote:
From my layman understanding the Big Crunch doesnt seem that likely (at the moment), dark energy is speeding up the expansion of the universe so if that turns out to be stronger than gravity, no crunch and just a cold, dark and dead universe
Yes, but the dark energy idea only became popular in the last ten years or so. It may well go away with better data and better analysis. These tests rely on calibrating the distance to distant galaxies by a sort of "bootstrap" process, to construct a "cosmic ruler" e.g. see:
http://telescopes.stardate.org/research/cosmic_rulers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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by retrofuturist » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:24 am
A former scientist postulating on the future, converted into a bloopy blippy auto-tuned electronic synth track... how retrofuturistic
Metta,
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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh
"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)
"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)
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by Thales » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:24 pm
In which we float like a mote of dust
In the morning sky
Thanks for this. A good reminder of the impermanence and insignificance of this life.
"Just as the ocean has a single taste, the taste of salt, so this Dhamma and Discipline has a single taste, the taste of release."
~Ud 5.5
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