I am sorry that you had to go through this. Many women have a great deal of anger towards men in general and I am sorry you had to bear the brunt of that.Cittasanto wrote:Hi Sattva
I hope this would be more harmonious discourse rather than discord. But I wonder if agreement is the only way that being heard (in this case) would be seen as acceptable? I would hope not, and that all responders actually considered what was shared fully, rather than simply agreeing based on similarity to preference, bias, or preconceived notions. I remember going to a training center where I was the only male student. oh the fond memories of being sat there while the women of varying ages decided it was a good idea to start complaining about men.
Possibly, but it can also mean that it is suppose to be "the man should wear the pants and control "his woman", instead of a relationship built on equality and respect (even when there are differences by choice in roles and contribution to the relationship).When you say this I am reminded of an observation about the comic strip I made.
I would like to know what the link between an unaccompanied woman and a man being called whipped is? isn't that more of an example of a man in a possibly abusive relationship, and others making light of it as a way to avoid seeing it?
I look at posts on the merits of the post, not the poster. Someones sex, race... make no difference, something of worth and something worthless can come from anyone, although some are more prone to one more than the other, and that can only be in certain topics. Or should some special protection be afforded to posts because of the poster?
As I said in the beginning I hope agreement is not the only form of hearing that is acceptable.
And finally an opinion (which I see here as we all share the same reality, but how we see it can be different)is something we all can have, but that doesn't mean any and every opinion is warranted, or worth protecting. Climate change deniers are generally scientifically illiterate, they have opinions should their opinion be given equal weight to that of researchers when the errors have and can be pointed out?
I don't think these are the same. If you are white, would you tell someone what it feels like to be black or what there experience of reality is? If you are straight would you tell someone who was gay what there experience is as a gay person? I don't think so. I cannot tell you what it is like to be male, to be black, to be gay, ---I can't even tell you what it is like to be most women. I can tell you what my experience has been like as a woman, as a Buddhist in a Christian America, etc. On one level, NONE of us share the same reality.
One more thing, you mentioned percentages. What percentage, etc...? Sometimes, I am aware of as a Buddhist that I am an example for all Buddhists, especially here in the west, where we are vastly outnumbered. I know it doesn't take much for people to view something I do as an example of what Buddhists are. So, I try (emphasis on try) to make wise choices and I haven't always done that. Likewise, unfortunately, some men (and women) make bad examples of the group as a whole.
Of course, this is an argument for not judging people on their gender, which is a very good and important point. Believe it or not, I have stood up for men as a group. I have commented about kind men. I have known some wonderful ones in my life, both strong and kind. I kind of love men lol and miss having one around to keep me company. I also, am fearful of men until I feel I have gotten to know them. It isn't without cause. It doesn't take a great percentage to have an affect on a person. It just takes a few instances for a person to start altering behavior and avoiding certain situations and sometimes, to even get angry about having to do that. Often they are angry, because they are also fearful. I am trying NOT to say too much here...but, I hope you will try to understand Cooran and myself.
When all is said and done, I think you have made some valid points and I respect your input, but I still want to firmly thank Cooran and tell her how much I appreciate her presence here and her posts, and tell her that I hear her reality.