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Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhists

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:24 am
by mettafuture
Many news agencies have covered the Buddhist violence against Muslims in Myanmar, but very few have covered the Muslim violence that has occurred against Buddhists. Does anyone know where I can find more information on these incidents? Have any mainstream news agencies covered them?

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:12 am
by Kim OHara
Hi, mettafuture,
We've talked about the topic in a few threads here - these are just two of the more recent threads:
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.ph ... 0&start=60
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=16205

They should contain some of the information you're looking for.

:namaste:
Kim

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:21 am
by mettafuture
Thank you, Kim. I'll comb through those threads and see what I can find.

In the meantime, I found these:
Ma Thida Htwe remembered in Arakan
[Graphic Content] 6-Year-old Buddhist Girl Brutally Raped and Murdered by Bengali Muslims

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:36 am
by pilgrim
There is no difficulty finding this on the Net. Just google "jihad against Buddhists". You can localize to search for Myanmar, Thailand, Bangladesh and Maldives.
Here are a couple of links
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/04/1 ... y-muslims/

http://seanrobsville.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... burma.html

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:57 am
by Kim OHara
pilgrim wrote:There is no difficulty finding this on the Net. Just google "jihad against Buddhists". You can localize to search for Myanmar, Thailand, Bangladesh and Maldives.
Here are a couple of links
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/04/1 ... y-muslims/

http://seanrobsville.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... burma.html
Hi, Pilgrim,
The trouble with "just google" is that you get so much garbage amongst the reliable information.
Most people are simply unaware that Islam is NOT just another religion but a totalitarian political cult-like ideology, which compels its followers into blind obedience, teaches intolerance, brutality and locks all Muslims and non-Muslims in a struggle deriving directly from the 7th century nomadic, predatory, Bedouin culture.
Would you trust anyone who said this?I know I wouldn't, but you have just recommended them as a source of news :jawdrop:
That was your first link. Your second looks better but all we get on the "About" and "profile" pages is ... nothing. Except that he maintains three Buddhist blogs and "has been on Blogger since 2009" :shrug:

The mainstream media doesn't cover all stories and isn't unbiased but it's a far better bet than random bloggers. If you can stick to non-Murdoch media you're better off, and if you can get an international range of sources you're better off still. Try Al Jazeera + The Guardian + ABC Australia or some such combination.

:namaste:
Kim

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:17 am
by cooran
Well said Kim!

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:18 am
by mettafuture
pilgrim wrote:There is no difficulty finding this on the Net. Just google "jihad against Buddhists". You can localize to search for Myanmar, Thailand, Bangladesh and Maldives.
Here are a couple of links
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/04/1 ... y-muslims/

http://seanrobsville.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... burma.html
I was hoping to find articles from mainstream news agencies, but very few seem to be covering the other side of the troubles in Burma.

But I did manage to find these...

TwoCircles: Rape-Murder of a Buddhist girl by Muslims led to riots: Myanmar Ambassador
Russia Today: 25,000 Muslim rioters torch Buddhist temples, homes in Bangladesh
Reuters: Three Buddhist women dead in south Thailand attack
Huffington Post: Indonesian Temple Bombed Allegedly To Avenge Violence Against Rohingya Muslims
cooran wrote:Well said Kim!
I agree. :)

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:48 am
by mettafuture
I'm organizing all of these links into a blog on Muslim violence against Buddhists and Buddhist culture:
[Link Removed]

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:58 am
by Kim OHara
A search on "muslim violence Buddhist Myanmar site:http://www.straitstimes.com" brings up thousands of results and the (Singapore) Straits Times surely can't afford to be too biased in either direction.

:coffee:
Kim

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:05 am
by purple planet
Most people are simply unaware that Islam is NOT just another religion but a totalitarian political cult-like ideology, which compels its followers into blind obedience, teaches intolerance, brutality and locks all Muslims and non-Muslims in a struggle deriving directly from the 7th century nomadic, predatory, Bedouin culture.


this is true (not saying it with ill-will this is true and not an exaggeration) - i cant understand why im heavily censored saying things against islam as a religon - but its ok to quote this things and say them and bash them for it

about burma situation - i dont know whats going on there and i cant really say whose "bad" whose "good" - i dont support actually any violence there - but it definitely - bothers me that people are trying to discuses the situation there without talking about islam

and its very unfair to bring quotes of people talking against islam - and make there true words seem like garbage - but if someone says it here its censored - i think for fairness - if you censor bad talking about islam - than its not fair to talk about the burma situation which clearly religon plays a big part in it

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:16 am
by mettafuture
Kim OHara wrote:A search on "muslim violence Buddhist Myanmar site:http://www.straitstimes.com" brings up thousands of results and the (Singapore) Straits Times surely can't afford to be too biased in either direction.

:coffee:
Kim
Thank you very much, Kim.
purple planet wrote:
Most people are simply unaware that Islam is NOT just another religion but a totalitarian political cult-like ideology, which compels its followers into blind obedience, teaches intolerance, brutality and locks all Muslims and non-Muslims in a struggle deriving directly from the 7th century nomadic, predatory, Bedouin culture.
Interesting fact: There are over 100 verses in the Quran that call for war.
and its very unfair to bring quotes of people talking against islam - and make there true words seem like garbage - but if someone says it here its censored - i think for fairness - if you censor bad talking about islam - than its not fair to talk about the burma situation which clearly religon plays a big part in it
I haven't expressed any opinion on the Burma situation. Currently I'm only looking for news reports on Muslim violence against Buddhists for my blog. Speaking of which, I fixed the link.

Question for the forum: Does anyone know where I can find more information on the Muslim invasions in early Buddhist history? Weren't many of the original texts destroyed by Muslim invaders? I found a paragraph about it in this book, but it doesn't go in much detail.

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:17 am
by lyndon taylor
While were on the topic of terrorism, lets not leave the Americans or the Israelis out of the discussion, nothing like having a bunch of fighter jets drop bombs on a civilian population to incite terror in the people's hearts!!

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:21 am
by purple planet
and its very unfair to bring quotes of people talking against islam - and make there true words seem like garbage - but if someone says it here its censored - i think for fairness - if you censor bad talking about islam - than its not fair to talk about the burma situation which clearly religon plays a big part in it


I haven't expressed any opinion on the Burma situation.
its not meant spesifcly for you or anyone here its a general thought that bugs me

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:25 am
by mettafuture
lyndon taylor wrote:While were on the topic of terrorism, lets not leave the Americans or the Israelis out of the discussion, nothing like having a bunch of fighter jets drop bombs on a civilian population to incite terror in the people's hearts!!
That's a different subject that deserves its own thread.

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:32 am
by purple planet
every thread about israel ( not america which i dont know enough to have a good opinion ) cannot be discussed without mentioning religion - and because its not ok to talk bad about religion by terms of service of this forum (which is ok and understandable) then any talk about israel would be unfair - the problem in israle is not about - land - oil- ethnicity - nationalism - water - or any other thing its only about religion and avoiding it would be unfair and would only lead to a distorted view on the situation

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:34 am
by mettafuture
I think I found what I was looking for. I found a Wikipedia article detailing the decline of Buddhism in India, which links to an article on the Muslim conquest in the Indian subcontinent. This link looks promising as well: Historical, Cultural, and Comparative Studies – Buddhism and Islam.
"In 1193, the Nalanda University complex was destroyed by Afghan Khilji-Ghilzai Muslims under Bakhtiyar Khalji; this event is seen as the final milestone in the decline of Buddhism in India. He also burned Nalanda's major Buddhist library and Vikramshila University, as well as numerous Bhuddhist monasteries in India."
Muslims have been terrorizing Buddhists for over 800 years.

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:53 am
by Modus.Ponens
purple planet wrote:every thread about israel ( not america which i dont know enough to have a good opinion ) cannot be discussed without mentioning religion - and because its not ok to talk bad about religion by terms of service of this forum (which is ok and understandable) then any talk about israel would be unfair - the problem in israle is not about - land - oil- ethnicity - nationalism - water - or any other thing its only about religion and avoiding it would be unfair and would only lead to a distorted view on the situation
:goodpost:

Unfortunately we can't discuss the nature of islam in the forum. Like you, and anyone else, I understand the need for it to be in the TOS. But it's quite frustrating to have an opinion that is imediatly cast out as racist/hateful/totaly unreasonable without any further analysis _ of the quran or, even more importantly, the hadiths.

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:11 am
by Kim OHara
mettafuture wrote:... Muslims have been terrorizing Buddhists for over 800 years.
That is such a gross over-simplification that (especially in the context of recent posts in this thread) it is very nearly a lie.
In the last 800 years there have been wars between Muslims and Buddhists, Muslims and Christians, Hindus and Buddhists, Hindus and Christians, Christians (Protestant flavour) and Christians (Catholic flavour), Muslims (Sunni) and Muslims (Shia), etc, etc, et bloody cetera.
Some were driven by religion, some were driven by greed, some were driven by revenge, some were nominally driven by religion but actually driven by greed, etc.
There have been wars and revolutions and civil wars in every country in Europe, every country in Asia, every country in America (North and South), every country in Africa ... the only reason there haven't been wars in Antarctica is that penguins are too smart.

None of us is in a position to throw stones at any ethnic or religious group. We all live in glass houses.

:jedi:
Kim

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:24 pm
by pilgrim
Kim OHara wrote:
mettafuture wrote:... Muslims have been terrorizing Buddhists for over 800 years.
That is such a gross over-simplification that (especially in the context of recent posts in this thread) it is very nearly a lie.
In the last 800 years there have been wars between Muslims and Buddhists, Muslims and Christians, Hindus and Buddhists, Hindus and Christians, Christians (Protestant flavour) and Christians (Catholic flavour), Muslims (Sunni) and Muslims (Shia), etc, etc, et bloody cetera.
Some were driven by religion, some were driven by greed, some were driven by revenge, some were nominally driven by religion but actually driven by greed, etc.
There have been wars and revolutions and civil wars in every country in Europe, every country in Asia, every country in America (North and South), every country in Africa ... the only reason there haven't been wars in Antarctica is that penguins are too smart.

None of us is in a position to throw stones at any ethnic or religious group. We all live in glass houses.

:jedi:
Kim
Muslims and Buddhists
Hindus and Buddhists
which ones are these?

Re: Looking for more info on Muslim violence against Buddhis

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:09 pm
by lyndon taylor
That would be quite recently Myanmar and Sri Lanka, Pilgrim