Nine blasts in Bodhgaya this morning: terrorist attack?

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Re: Nine blasts in Bodhgaya this morning: terror attack?

Post by DNS » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:34 am

Will wrote: Around 200 or 300 (I forget) years from now Islam will be the totalitarian ruler of nearly all. Then they will set their sights on Central Asia and a mighty countervailing Dharma army will fight back and destroy the grip of Islam.
That doesn't sound very Dharmic. The Dhamma will disappear one day, just as it did in the past. A new samma-sam-buddha will arise when the conditions are right. There is no need for violence. We can do what we can to try and preserve the Dhamma for as long as possible, but should do so with non-violent means.

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Re: Nine blasts in Bodhgaya this morning: terror attack?

Post by SarathW » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:42 am

Just with a light heart.

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In fact, Arthur C. Clark a futuristic visionary, in one of his books, mentioned that Buddhism will be the only religion that will survive by the year 2050 and that scientist cannot hammer it down or destroy it

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Re: Nine blasts in Bodhgaya this morning: terror attack?

Post by DNS » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:54 am

SarathW wrote: In fact, Arthur C. Clark a futuristic visionary, in one of his books, mentioned that Buddhism will be the only religion that will survive by the year 2050 and that scientist cannot hammer it down or destroy it
I just read that other thread you started earlier this year. Yes, that is a good example of what we can "do"; education. Has anyone else noticed how there hasn't been many Jim Jones' type cults lately? I think it may be due to better education, which doesn't have to be formal education; it can be from the information age with the internet.

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Post by Nyana » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:38 am

SarathW wrote:In fact, Arthur C. Clark a futuristic visionary, in one of his books, mentioned that Buddhism will be the only religion that will survive by the year 2050 and that scientist cannot hammer it down or destroy it
I think it's highly unlikely that all other religions will fizzle out or be destroyed in the next 37 years.

But at any rate, secular ideologies (e.g. nationalism, fascism, communism, neoliberalism) have lead to far more violence and death in the last 100 years than religious ideologies have.

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Re: Nine blasts in Bodhgaya this morning: terror attack?

Post by lyndon taylor » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:49 am

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SarathW wrote: In fact, Arthur C. Clark a futuristic visionary, in one of his books, mentioned that Buddhism will be the only religion that will survive by the year 2050 and that scientist cannot hammer it down or destroy it
I just read that other thread you started earlier this year. Yes, that is a good example of what we can "do"; education. Has anyone else noticed how there hasn't been many Jim Jones' type cults lately? I think it may be due to better education, which doesn't have to be formal education; it can be from the information age with the internet.
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Re: Nine blasts in Bodhgaya this morning: terror attack?

Post by cooran » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:31 am

Sounds like BodhGaya has been considered as a target for a while:

Held terrorists had revealed plans to bomb BodhGaya
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 88506.aspx


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Post by Martin Po » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:38 am

Will wrote: Most Buddhists are not like the few Arhans who follow the Saw Sutta. They will defend themselves and even take preemptive actions against the Muslims.
If some one reject and goes against Buddha's teaching, so he is not a Buddha disciple.
Those who go fight and kill others, are not disciples, but the shame of Buddha's name.

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Re: Nine blasts in Bodhgaya this morning: terror attack?

Post by cooran » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:47 am

Man detained over BodhGaya bomb blasts
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-23222495

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Re: Nine blasts in Bodhgaya this morning: terror attack?

Post by Coyote » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:43 am

This is really sad, and odd that it was little reported in the west. I really hope there is no retaliation and that things don't escalate because of this.
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Post by tiltbillings » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:50 am

Coyote wrote:This is really sad, and odd that it was little reported in the west. I really hope there is no retaliation and that things don't escalate because of this.
Human nature being what it is, we can only hope.
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Re: Nine blasts in Bodhgaya this morning: terror attack?

Post by Will » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:04 pm

Martin Po wrote:
Will wrote: Most Buddhists are not like the few Arhans who follow the Saw Sutta. They will defend themselves and even take preemptive actions against the Muslims.
If some one reject and goes against Buddha's teaching, so he is not a Buddha disciple.
Those who go fight and kill others, are not disciples, but the shame of Buddha's name.

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Noble notion Martin - does it apply to Islamic terrorists who blow up innocents? Are they not Muslims? They certainly think they are good Muslims - they quote chapter and verse from the Koran & the Hadith in support of their Jihad.

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Re: Nine blasts in Bodhgaya this morning: terror attack?

Post by Raksha » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:46 pm

Martin Po wrote:If some one reject and goes against Buddha's teaching, so he is not a Buddha disciple.
Those who go fight and kill others, are not disciples, but the shame of Buddha's name.
It is not for you to say who is or is not a Buddhist. Shaolin monks not Buddhist? Mongolia not Buddhist? Gurkhas not Buddhist? I'm sick of Westerners in their 'cosy Californian studios' passing judgement on matters about which they know absolutely nothing.
The same goes for Blackbird's comments about Wirathu, describing him as 'fascist' and a 'nazi'. Have you been to Rakhine state Blackbird, or met Wirathu, have you even read anything written by him? I have yet to read a single Western media report that correctly portrays Rohingya as armed separatists funded by Saudi Arabia. Wirathu did not describe himself as 'Bin Laden' nor have monks led mobs against Muslims, it is simply Arakanese attacking Bangladeshi land-grabbers.

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Re: Nine blasts in Bodhgaya this morning: terror attack?

Post by Sekha » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:02 pm

Will wrote: Is the Dhamma a purely pacifist religion?
As far as the teaching of the Buddha is concerned, absolutely. There is no question about it.
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Re: Nine blasts in Bodhgaya this morning: terror attack?

Post by Martin Po » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:34 pm

Will wrote:
Noble notion Martin - does it apply to Islamic terrorists who blow up innocents? Are they not Muslims? They certainly think they are good Muslims - they quote chapter and verse from the Koran & the Hadith in support of their Jihad.

Is the Dhamma a purely pacifist religion?
If some buddhists are afraid to die, to disapear, to ceasse existance - they have to change their Teacher and Teaching and preache attachemen to self, attachement to soul, attachement to exstance, attachement to views, attachement to form, attachement to feeling, attachement to perception, attachemet to mental formations, attachement to consciousness.

Islamic terrorist (and other military organisations) suffer, and their suffering of existance, based on self-belief, push them to make such evil actions.
If you, and others, are not able to compassion, not able to detachement, not able to wisdom, but able to hate, able to self-preaching, able of killing, so they are traitors of Buddha, shame of Buddha, not worthy of gift, not worthy of hospitality, not worthy of offerings, worthy of respect.

It's a shame.
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