lojong1 wrote:I wonder if Teresa d'Avila (and maybe Juan de la Cruz and Meister Eckhart) truly remained Christian after Jhana experiences.
James the Giant wrote:If they did access the first few Jhanas, nothing in that experience would disagree with a Christian world-view.
Dhammanando wrote:Given the tendency of jhāna to powerfully reinforce whatever diṭṭhi (right or wrong) prompts the person to strive for it, one would expect them to be even more Christian (or at least more Papist) afterwards,
Dhammanando wrote: In St. Teresa's case it's noteworthy that her rabid fulminations against Jews and Lutherans were all written subsequent to her mystical experiences; they are not juvenilia, but the works of her 'mature' years.
Coyote wrote:You might want to read a bit about Hesychasm and the uncreated light - these kind of experiences have been part and parcel of Christian mysticism since before the first millennia...
Coyote wrote:But just because they experience concentration, lights, rapture ect. doesn't necessarily make it genuine jhana, though it all seems to be based on the same principles - seclusion, refraining from immorality, deep focus on one object or sound.
lojong1 wrote:Does John of the Cross describe anything similar besides in Dark Night o Soul? Where are Meister Eckhart's best instructions?
lojong1 wrote:I'd like to see which Christian traditions still practice these meditations--Carmelites maybe?
This 'Interior Castle' is the clearest christian meditation instruction I've seen. Philokalia might also be good...it's been so long now.
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