Hence my label of "Buddhist-seeming" and "oddly Buddhist".binocular wrote:Or just some good dramatic writing.Coëmgenu wrote:The film has very fascinating "Buddhist-seeming" overtones, especially in the way that life as a ghost is framed as a "reincarnation" of sorts, incomplete and caused by self-clinging at the moment of death. The line "held in place by their looking" really struck me. The ghost-birth of the being formerly named Lily Saylor is not Lily Saylor, merely the shade of self-clinging itself.
That struck me as an oddly Buddhist sentiment.
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Re: Self-clinging, and the philosophy of "ghosts" in Osgood Perkins' new film
Hence my label of "Buddhist-seeming" and "oddly Buddhist". [/quote]Coëmgenu wrote:Or just some good dramatic writing.
Well, maybe the Buddhists are onto something, or good dramatists are onto something, or both are onto something ...
The similarity could be purely co-incidental, or just general.
Or take music from the Classical period, for example. The basic structure of those muscial pieces is -- beginning: fast, cheerful movement; middle: slower, sad movement; finale: in the classical spirit of neither sad nor cheerful, but a kind of goodwilled, upspirited earnestness (adapted of course for the number of movements for each musical form respectively).
Mozart's last piano sonata is a brilliant example of this structure, or Beethoven's Fifth.
One could argue that Classical music has a Buddhist structure, the finale being an example of the middle way.
Hic Rhodus, hic salta!
Re: Self-clinging, and the philosophy of "ghosts" in Osgood Perkins' new film
I suppose so. And in that case anything that seemed like a compromise between any two points would also become "Buddhist-seeming", but it was the interesting parallels with self-clinging and rebirth as a ghost that struck me as fascinating, not so much any narrative structure or technique of motivic development. The dukkha of the futility of the objective of self-preservation after death is explored greatly in the film, through the metaphor of the ghost's "half-life", as an unsatisfied "rotting" being, trapped by her insistence on looking back to her past self.binocular wrote:Well, maybe the Buddhists are onto something, or good dramatists are onto something, or both are onto something ...Coëmgenu wrote:Hence my label of "Buddhist-seeming" and "oddly Buddhist".binocular wrote:Or just some good dramatic writing.
The similarity could be purely co-incidental, or just general.
Or take music from the Classical period, for example. The basic structure of those muscial pieces is -- beginning: fast, cheerful movement; middle: slower, sad movement; finale: in the classical spirit of neither sad nor cheerful, but a kind of goodwilled, upspirited earnestness (adapted of course for the number of movements for each musical form respectively).
Mozart's last piano sonata is a brilliant example of this structure, or Beethoven's Fifth.
One could argue that Classical music has a Buddhist structure, the finale being an example of the middle way.
What is the Uncreated?
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
Re: Self-clinging, and the philosophy of "ghosts" in Osgood Perkins' new film
One can find "Buddhist moments" is many stories.
Whether the author of the story intended them in a Buddhist sense or not, is another matter.
In the thread on Dhamma themed films here, there are many films listed that have no explicit relation to Buddhism, but which can be interpreted as sending a Buddhist message or making a Buddhist point.
Whether the author of the story intended them in a Buddhist sense or not, is another matter.
In the thread on Dhamma themed films here, there are many films listed that have no explicit relation to Buddhism, but which can be interpreted as sending a Buddhist message or making a Buddhist point.
Hic Rhodus, hic salta!
Re: Self-clinging, and the philosophy of "ghosts" in Osgood Perkins' new film
I didn't know this thread existed. Maybe I should ask a moderator move my post there, since there is already a thread for it.binocular wrote:One can find "Buddhist moments" is many stories.
Whether the author of the story intended them in a Buddhist sense or not, is another matter.
In the thread on Dhamma themed films here, there are many films listed that have no explicit relation to Buddhism, but which can be interpreted as sending a Buddhist message or making a Buddhist point.
What is the Uncreated?
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
Re: The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread
The Fourth Nobel Truth
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M6W8LS9
I think it is a great way for non-buddhists to get their first idea of what Buddhism is about.
Its about a jaded movie star sentenced by a judge to get meditation and dhamma lessons after he is arrested for drunk driving.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M6W8LS9
I think it is a great way for non-buddhists to get their first idea of what Buddhism is about.
Its about a jaded movie star sentenced by a judge to get meditation and dhamma lessons after he is arrested for drunk driving.
Whatever a bhikkhu frequently thinks and ponders upon, that will become the inclination of his mind. - MN 19
Re: The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread
I haven't seen the film yet, but what I find the most amazing is the choice of Hamlin as the lead actor! Sometimes, it's the life stories of actors, their ups and downs in their careers, and their choice of films to act in that is the most amazing and gives me the most to think about.
Hic Rhodus, hic salta!
Re: The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread
All is lost, by J.C. Chandor with Robert Redford.
This film has a radically different pace and setting than what probably most of us are used to, giving the viewer time to reflect on what one is seeing and what one is thinking.
This film has a radically different pace and setting than what probably most of us are used to, giving the viewer time to reflect on what one is seeing and what one is thinking.
Hic Rhodus, hic salta!
Re: The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread
The movie has its own web site, and from what I read there it seems to be a personal project inspired by one of the creators own struggles with their life.binocular wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:03 pmI haven't seen the film yet, but what I find the most amazing is the choice of Hamlin as the lead actor! Sometimes, it's the life stories of actors, their ups and downs in their careers, and their choice of films to act in that is the most amazing and gives me the most to think about.
Whatever a bhikkhu frequently thinks and ponders upon, that will become the inclination of his mind. - MN 19
Re: The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread
Lord of War by Nicolas Cage.
It triggers thoughts about Law, Evil, Governance and Hierarchy. It is also timely as to the ongoing war in Ukraine and the roles mercenaries, arms dealers and governments might be playing in it.
It triggers thoughts about Law, Evil, Governance and Hierarchy. It is also timely as to the ongoing war in Ukraine and the roles mercenaries, arms dealers and governments might be playing in it.
And the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus, saying: "Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!"
This was the last word of the Tathagata.
This was the last word of the Tathagata.