The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread

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Re: The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread

Post by samseva » Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:43 am

The Tree of Life (Click to view trailer)

Not Buddhist in and of itself, but the concepts of anicca and dukkha are present throughout the movie.

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Re: The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread

Post by Dhammanando » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:21 am

Interpreting "Dhamma-themed" rather liberally, here is Pashana Bedhi from the 1968 BBC children's serial The Herbs. When I was about three, Pashana was my very first exposure to Indian religiosity in general, and in particular to the celebrated simile of mistaking a rope for a snake.




  • “Suppose a timid man is pursued by a snake in a forest and flees from it as fast as he can, then if he sees a length of rope in the place he has fled to, he is fearful, anxious and will not even look at it.

    “Here is the application of the simile. The time when the bhikkhu has the gross physical matter as his object is like the time when the man was threatened by the snake. The time when the bhikkhu surmounts the gross physical matter by means of the fourth jhāna of the fine-material sphere is like the man’s fleeing as fast as he can. The bhikkhu’s observing that even the matter of the kasiṇa is the counterpart of that gross physical matter and his wanting to surmount that also is like the man’s seeing the length of rope in the place he had fled to and his unwillingness to look owing to fear and anxiety.”
    (Visuddhimagga, ch. 10)

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Re: The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread

Post by mal4mac » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:56 pm

"Black Narcissus"
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Re: The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread

Post by Vanda » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:50 pm

Zen - The Life Of Zen Master Dogen
“Don’t go by reports, by legends, by traditions, by scripture, by logical conjecture, by inference, by analogies, by agreement through pondering views, by probability, or by the thought, ‘This contemplative is our teacher.’ When you know for yourselves that, ‘These qualities are skillful; these qualities are blameless; these qualities are praised by the wise; these qualities, when adopted and carried out, lead to welfare and to happiness’ — then you should enter and remain in them.”
- Kalama Sutta, Anguttara Nikaya

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Re: The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread

Post by phil » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:43 pm

I was blown away by seeing Godfather 2 the other day for the first time in a few years. Hard to think of a movie in which the impact of the kilesas is laid out in as masterful a way. I guess Coppila would be thinking more in terms of the cardinal sins, but it is certainly the work of a man who has great insight into suffering and its roots.
Kammalakkhano , bhikkhave, bālo, kammalakkhano pandito, apadānasobhanī paññāti
(The fool is characterized by his/her actions/the wise one is characterized by his/her actions/Wisdom shines forth in behaviour.)
(AN 3.2 Lakkhana Sutta)

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Re: The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread

Post by phil » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:12 pm

Just saw Everest. Reminded me of the monkey and that monkey trap. Monkey Trap Mountain!
Kammalakkhano , bhikkhave, bālo, kammalakkhano pandito, apadānasobhanī paññāti
(The fool is characterized by his/her actions/the wise one is characterized by his/her actions/Wisdom shines forth in behaviour.)
(AN 3.2 Lakkhana Sutta)

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Re: The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread

Post by WorldTraveller » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:13 pm

The craving [for power] has no limits!


Zero Days (2016)
A documentary focused on Stuxnet, a piece of self-replicating computer malware that the U.S. and Israel unleashed to destroy a key part of an Iranian nuclear facility, and which ultimately spread beyond its intended target.



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Re: The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread

Post by dharmacorps » Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:22 pm

My suggestion is Mindflesh, a British film from 2008-- definitely of the horror genre. This movie is explicitly Buddhist.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0964529/

A pretty crazy psycho-sexual body horror film about attachments. I watched this with a non-Buddhist who found it confusing, but it made perfect sense to me.

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Self-clinging, and the philosophy of "ghosts" in Osgood Perkins' new film

Post by Coëmgenu » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:51 am

On the subject of the philosophy of self-clinging there is a marvellous film recently released on Netflix called I Am the Pretty Thing That Lives in the House, written by Osgood Perkins. I don't know if Perkins is a Buddhist or not, but the plot concerns a young woman who is reborn as a ghost as a direct consequence of extreme self-clinging at the moment of death. The philosophical parallels are very fascinating.
I have heard myself say that a house with a death in it can never again be bought or sold by the living. It can only be borrowed from the ghosts that have stayed behind.

To go back and forth, letting out and gathering back in again.

Worrying over the floors in confused circles.

Tending to their deaths like patchy, withered gardens.

They have stayed to look back for a glimpse of the very last moments of their lives.

But the memories of their own deaths are faces on the wrong side of wet windows, smeared by rain.

Impossible to properly see.

There is nothing that chains them to the places where their bodies have fallen.

They are free to go, but still they confine themselves, held in place by their looking.

For those who have stayed, their prison is their never seeing.

And left all alone, this is how they rot.

I did not know it at the time, but the house that stands at the end of Teacup Road in the town of Braintree, Massachusetts, was such a house. A house that holds a seat for the memory of a death.

The staying place of a rotted ghost.

At the time of my arrival in the first part of August, the house was occupied by Iris Blum, the author of 13 novels. The kinds of thick and frightening books that people buy at airports and supermarkets.

Of her books, I have read fewer than nine pages of only a single one... and all the while suppressing a very bad taste. I am not even sure of the title.

From where I am now, I can be sure of only a very few things.
The pretty thing you are looking at is me.
Of this I am sure.

My name is Lily Saylor.
I am a hospice nurse.
Three days ago, I turned 28 years old.
I will never be 29 years old.
(I Am the Pretty Thing That Lives in the House, Osgood Perkins, opening monologue)

The film has very fascinating "Buddhist-seeming" overtones, especially in the way that life as a ghost is framed as a "reincarnation" of sorts, incomplete and caused by self-clinging at the moment of death. The line "held in place by their looking" really struck me. The ghost-birth of the being formerly named Lily Saylor is not Lily Saylor, merely the shade of self-clinging itself. That struck me as an oddly Buddhist sentiment.
神足示現者,
世尊隨其所應,而示現入禪定正受,陵虛至東方,作四威儀,
行、住、坐、臥,入火三昧,出種種火光,青、黃、赤、白、
紅、頗梨色,水火俱現, 或身下出火,身上出水,身上出火,
身下出水,周圓四方亦復如是。

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Re: Self-clinging, and the philosophy of "ghosts" in Osgood Perkins' new film

Post by binocular » Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:02 pm

Coëmgenu wrote:The film has very fascinating "Buddhist-seeming" overtones, especially in the way that life as a ghost is framed as a "reincarnation" of sorts, incomplete and caused by self-clinging at the moment of death. The line "held in place by their looking" really struck me. The ghost-birth of the being formerly named Lily Saylor is not Lily Saylor, merely the shade of self-clinging itself.

That struck me as an oddly Buddhist sentiment.
Or just some good dramatic writing.

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Re: Self-clinging, and the philosophy of "ghosts" in Osgood Perkins' new film

Post by Coëmgenu » Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:16 pm

binocular wrote:
Coëmgenu wrote:The film has very fascinating "Buddhist-seeming" overtones, especially in the way that life as a ghost is framed as a "reincarnation" of sorts, incomplete and caused by self-clinging at the moment of death. The line "held in place by their looking" really struck me. The ghost-birth of the being formerly named Lily Saylor is not Lily Saylor, merely the shade of self-clinging itself.

That struck me as an oddly Buddhist sentiment.
Or just some good dramatic writing.
Hence my label of "Buddhist-seeming" and "oddly Buddhist". ;)
神足示現者,
世尊隨其所應,而示現入禪定正受,陵虛至東方,作四威儀,
行、住、坐、臥,入火三昧,出種種火光,青、黃、赤、白、
紅、頗梨色,水火俱現, 或身下出火,身上出水,身上出火,
身下出水,周圓四方亦復如是。


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Re: Self-clinging, and the philosophy of "ghosts" in Osgood Perkins' new film

Post by binocular » Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:56 pm

Coëmgenu wrote:Or just some good dramatic writing.
Hence my label of "Buddhist-seeming" and "oddly Buddhist". ;)[/quote]
Well, maybe the Buddhists are onto something, or good dramatists are onto something, or both are onto something ...
The similarity could be purely co-incidental, or just general.

Or take music from the Classical period, for example. The basic structure of those muscial pieces is -- beginning: fast, cheerful movement; middle: slower, sad movement; finale: in the classical spirit of neither sad nor cheerful, but a kind of goodwilled, upspirited earnestness (adapted of course for the number of movements for each musical form respectively).
Mozart's last piano sonata is a brilliant example of this structure, or Beethoven's Fifth.

One could argue that Classical music has a Buddhist structure, the finale being an example of the middle way.

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Re: Self-clinging, and the philosophy of "ghosts" in Osgood Perkins' new film

Post by Coëmgenu » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:17 pm

binocular wrote:
Coëmgenu wrote:
binocular wrote:Or just some good dramatic writing.
Hence my label of "Buddhist-seeming" and "oddly Buddhist". ;)
Well, maybe the Buddhists are onto something, or good dramatists are onto something, or both are onto something ...
The similarity could be purely co-incidental, or just general.

Or take music from the Classical period, for example. The basic structure of those muscial pieces is -- beginning: fast, cheerful movement; middle: slower, sad movement; finale: in the classical spirit of neither sad nor cheerful, but a kind of goodwilled, upspirited earnestness (adapted of course for the number of movements for each musical form respectively).
Mozart's last piano sonata is a brilliant example of this structure, or Beethoven's Fifth.

One could argue that Classical music has a Buddhist structure, the finale being an example of the middle way.
I suppose so. And in that case anything that seemed like a compromise between any two points would also become "Buddhist-seeming", but it was the interesting parallels with self-clinging and rebirth as a ghost that struck me as fascinating, not so much any narrative structure or technique of motivic development. The dukkha of the futility of the objective of self-preservation after death is explored greatly in the film, through the metaphor of the ghost's "half-life", as an unsatisfied "rotting" being, trapped by her insistence on looking back to her past self.
神足示現者,
世尊隨其所應,而示現入禪定正受,陵虛至東方,作四威儀,
行、住、坐、臥,入火三昧,出種種火光,青、黃、赤、白、
紅、頗梨色,水火俱現, 或身下出火,身上出水,身上出火,
身下出水,周圓四方亦復如是。

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Re: Self-clinging, and the philosophy of "ghosts" in Osgood Perkins' new film

Post by binocular » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:52 pm

One can find "Buddhist moments" is many stories.
Whether the author of the story intended them in a Buddhist sense or not, is another matter.

In the thread on Dhamma themed films here, there are many films listed that have no explicit relation to Buddhism, but which can be interpreted as sending a Buddhist message or making a Buddhist point.

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Re: Self-clinging, and the philosophy of "ghosts" in Osgood Perkins' new film

Post by Coëmgenu » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:23 pm

binocular wrote:One can find "Buddhist moments" is many stories.
Whether the author of the story intended them in a Buddhist sense or not, is another matter.

In the thread on Dhamma themed films here, there are many films listed that have no explicit relation to Buddhism, but which can be interpreted as sending a Buddhist message or making a Buddhist point.
I didn't know this thread existed. Maybe I should ask a moderator move my post there, since there is already a thread for it.
神足示現者,
世尊隨其所應,而示現入禪定正受,陵虛至東方,作四威儀,
行、住、坐、臥,入火三昧,出種種火光,青、黃、赤、白、
紅、頗梨色,水火俱現, 或身下出火,身上出水,身上出火,
身下出水,周圓四方亦復如是。

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Re: The obligatory Dhamma themed movie thread

Post by Kim OHara » Sun May 07, 2017 10:49 am

Shared from the other Wheel, because I enjoyed it so much:
Buddhism and the Film

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