CedarTree wrote:I kinda liked it lol
Yeah, it is really quite refreshing,
this Arabic sound with its quarter-tone harmonics and full of energy. Comparing it to this rather monotonous typical Norwegian old-school black metal song
(which I also find uplifting somehow, sometimes, to some extent, in a different way | by some neo-nazi Pagan YouTube pseudo-philosopher and convicted murderer, whose views I find partially somehow appealing and partially very disturbing), this is really happy and energizing stuff. Go Arabic metalheads!
Sorry for having hijacked this thread with my peculiar musical preferences and continuing to do so now. I am going to finish the hijacking now to be done with it with this lenghty reply and continue on-topic afterwards.
SDC wrote:It would be interesting to see if the black metal scene in SA (if there is one) mimics that of Norway in the early 90's, where the perceived vacuum created by the religious establishment there produced a youth willing to do such evil and ungodly things in order to express their displeasure.
Not sure exactly what the "perceived vacuum created by the religious establishment" was that you are talking about. I suppose with the "evil and ungodly things" you refer to the church burnings
and so on.
I don't know too much about those things and what drove that scene including its crazy lunatics with their morbid tendencies, but I believe there can be no real comparison between the oh-so-rebellious church arsonists of the Black Metal scene in Norway in the 90s and whatever is going on in Saudi Arabia nowadays.
According to what some googling revealed to me
here, as a first superficial glance, there have been some improvements on the freedom for musicians some years ago (that article is from 2008), but they cannot perform publicly in the country because that is somehow sinful and so on. But at least they are not punished for recording in private.
That particular band whose music I linked to here, though, has to stay anonymous, apparently, because their lyrics are decidedly anti-religious, so they could face severe punishment for that. They don't even have to burn any churches (or mosques) to be criminals. And their rebelliousness has to stay totally underground, it seems.
There are other Middle-Eastern anti-islamistic (not necessarily anti-islamic) bands like Seeds of Iblis
([I think Iblis = "Satan"
, more or less]there is no English Wikipedia page for them yet). Their texts
are reasonably critical (very uplifting) to what is really happening around them in terms of religious strife and bloodshed and so on, as opposed to the crude generic anti-christian "satanist" black metal musical messages of those black metal bands that arose in Norway in the 90s. Seeds of Iblis are supposedly based in Iraq, but no one is really sure, because, of course, they can not show their real faces and so on.
There are also bands like this one
(the name means something like "hellfire", apparently) from Bahrain, who, just as in Saudi Arabia, cannot perform very much or at all in public, because the religious establishment does not like that style of music, but since their (mostly religious/quranic inspired, apparently) lyrics are not anti-Islam (it seems they sing about hellfire and stuff all in line with the quran, but it is in Arabic, so I don't really know) they are not persecuted for it, but perhaps ostracized to some degree by the mainstream surrounding culture, maybe like "satanist" metalheads back in those days here a bit, or maybe a bit more seriously. No idea if ISIS fighters would approve of and bang their heads to something like this
, though. I don't like it particularly.
SDC wrote:Surely that wouldn't make me happy per se, but to know that such rebellion were able to happen in such a authoritarian country would be something to see.
I am very ignorant about what it may be like to live in those islamic Middle-Eastern countries and can mostly only fantasize about it. But as some of the YouTube commenters to some of that music like to say "True jihad is against the self"
, or true rebellion works (from? to?) within
one might say perhaps, or something like that. I think that is a good attitude, and something which might be encouraged by the social circumstances and generally prevailing (non-)acceptability of that type of music in those regions. Or at least that's how I'd like to imagine it. </Mostly off-topic>