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Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:59 am
by PeterB
Perhaps a subforum of the Lounge could be created called " Managed And Contained Papanca " in recognition of what appears to be a genuine need. :smile: Or perhaps it already exists.

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:04 am
by tiltbillings
PeterB wrote:Perhaps a subforum of the Lounge could be created called " Managed And Contained Papanca " in recognition of what appears to be a genuine need. :smile: Or perhaps it already exists.
What be posted there?

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:10 am
by PeterB
Well I guess if it that subforum exists naming its content would defeat the purpose..

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:14 am
by tiltbillings
PeterB wrote:Well I guess if it that subforum exists naming its content would defeat the purpose..
When I helped moderate BeliefNet's Buddhist forum (years ago, before it changed and messed up it messaging systems and sold its soul to Fox Noise), I created a section called Avici Hell where all grossly off-topic (derailing) postings were consigned. Something such as that?

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:18 am
by PeterB
Yes good one. We must of course imagine an Avici Hell where everyone is temporarily content. We must imagine Sysiphus distracted.

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:18 am
by Aloka
PeterB wrote:Perhaps a subforum of the Lounge could be created called " Managed And Contained Papanca " in recognition of what appears to be a genuine need. :smile: Or perhaps it already exists.

Might it not eventually be bursting at the seams, Peter ?

:rofl:

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:27 am
by Pannapetar
I don't think this is a particularly good idea, as it would automatically foster interventionism, overmoderation, and censoring. This board appears to do quite well without it.

Cheers, Thomas

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:29 am
by PeterB
Its a characteristic of papanca , Aloka that its expansive qualities are without limit...
Peter's Third Law of Papanca Dynamics states;
" When free to proliferate without constraint papanca will eventually fill the nearest universe ".

which of course should always be set against the Fourth Law ;

" When papanca expands to four times its volume the smell of the ordure of the male bovine will set in motion processes that will eventually end that particular expansion".

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:31 am
by Paññāsikhara
tiltbillings wrote:
PeterB wrote:Well I guess if it that subforum exists naming its content would defeat the purpose..
When I helped moderate BeliefNet's Buddhist forum (years ago, before it changed and messed up it messaging systems and sold its soul to Fox Noise), I created a section called Avici Hell where all grossly off-topic (derailing) postings were consigned. Something such as that?
I don't know if it was visible to non-Mods at E-Sangha, but all the posts which were deleted were put, temporarily of course, for nothing conditioned is permanent, in a special little Forum space called "The Bardo" (= intermediate existence). Of course, being Theravadins, such a name would have doctrinal issues. :tongue:

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:40 am
by tiltbillings
Paññāsikhara wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:
PeterB wrote:Well I guess if it that subforum exists naming its content would defeat the purpose..
When I helped moderate BeliefNet's Buddhist forum (years ago, before it changed and messed up it messaging systems and sold its soul to Fox Noise), I created a section called Avici Hell where all grossly off-topic (derailing) postings were consigned. Something such as that?
I don't know if it was visible to non-Mods at E-Sangha, but all the posts which were deleted were put, temporarily of course, for nothing conditioned is permanent, in a special little Forum space called "The Bardo" (= intermediate existence). Of course, being Theravadins, such a name would have doctrinal issues. :tongue:
To let out a wee secret we have the "Charnel Grounds" (borrowed from Termite's Websangha) for posts that have been removed from view.

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:55 am
by retrofuturist
Greetings Peter,
PeterB wrote:Perhaps a subforum of the Lounge could be created called " Managed And Contained Papanca " in recognition of what appears to be a genuine need. :smile: Or perhaps it already exists.
Check out what the Lounge was called on the prototype version of Dhamma Wheel...

http://lotuscafe.proboards.com/index.cgi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?

Metta,
Retro. :)

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:00 am
by PeterB
Really ! thats amazing.. :smile:
Its like when I make up a song..it usually sounds suspiciously like something I have already heard..

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:01 am
by Ben
PeterB wrote:Its a characteristic of papanca , Aloka that its expansive qualities are without limit...
Peter's Third Law of Papanca Dynamics states;
" When free to proliferate without constraint papanca will eventually fill the nearest universe ".
Funny. It reminds me of something Philip K Dick wrote about in Do andrioids dream of electric sheep. If you've seen the movie Bladerunner, and not read the book, its the weird asberger-like character who builds little android-like companions and plays chess with the CEO of the android company. This character, whose name escapes me because its been well over 30 years since I read it, had a pet theory about the self-replicating principle of crap. It was beautiful! Then years later and reading Ledi Sayadaw for the first time, I read about it all over again. Papancanaana was never so sweet.
metta

Ben

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:04 am
by PeterB
:lol:

It strikes me that this joke "suggestion" has itself expanded rather beyond the Suggestion Box..

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:06 am
by retrofuturist
One might say it has proliferated....

Image

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:13 am
by PeterB
See Peter's Third Law..do you think mods the bovine ordure limitation should kick in leading to locking..or ironically it should head to the Lounge ?

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:24 am
by Goofaholix
PeterB wrote:Perhaps a subforum of the Lounge could be created called " Managed And Contained Papanca " in recognition of what appears to be a genuine need. :smile: Or perhaps it already exists.
Buddhists on the internet has a direct causal relationship with the proliferation of papanca, the first step is to admit that you are a papanca-a-holic, if we weren't doing it on the internet we'd be sitting on a cushion watching our minds do it anyway.

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:54 am
by Paññāsikhara
Goofaholix wrote:
PeterB wrote:Perhaps a subforum of the Lounge could be created called " Managed And Contained Papanca " in recognition of what appears to be a genuine need. :smile: Or perhaps it already exists.
Buddhists on the internet has a direct causal relationship with the proliferation of papanca, the first step is to admit that you are a papanca-a-holic, if we weren't doing it on the internet we'd be sitting on a cushion watching our minds do it anyway.
Admit I'm a prapanca-holic?

Never!

I am the Mahaprapancaraja!! :woohoo:

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:18 am
by PeterB
Makes you wonder how we Papancaholics managed before the Internet.
Actually I remember...One would attend a teaching at The Buddhist Society and after the talk there would be a Q and A session..the speaker would start rounding off, and someone , almost always a guy not a gal, would ignore the cues and say something like, " I have always felt that Anatta was actually an Atlantean concept "...at which point everyone would groan softly as they realised that tea and biccies had just been postponed for another half hour.

Re: Papanca

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:34 am
by Kim OHara
PeterB wrote:Perhaps a subforum of the Lounge could be created called " Managed And Contained Papanca " in recognition of what appears to be a genuine need. :smile: Or perhaps it already exists.
Having read the whole thread (so far), and having been less-than-kind in another thread not so long ago, I humbly suggest that we need to remember that lotuses do grow in ... muck ... and allow the papanca to accumulate for the sake of the occasional lotus arising from it.
:meditate:

Kim