Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

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Re: Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

Post by BKh » Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:08 pm

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I think every person want to be number one.
The only way to do this is to pay Google!
You cant pay google to be first
Well, you can buy ads. If your organization has charity status (depending on country) there is a Google grant program that provides free ads. But I don't believe DW has that status.
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Re: Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

Post by Grigoris » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:11 pm

Circle5 wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:33 am
There are countless people being lost to mahayana due to dhammawheel having bad SEO.
Is there a competition? What's the prize if one wins?
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Re: Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

Post by Sam Vara » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:47 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:11 pm
Circle5 wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:33 am
There are countless people being lost to mahayana due to dhammawheel having bad SEO.
Is there a competition? What's the prize if one wins?
Nibbana, apparently... :tongue:

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Re: Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

Post by Circle5 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:27 pm

Sam Vara wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:47 pm
Grigoris wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:11 pm
Circle5 wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:33 am
There are countless people being lost to mahayana due to dhammawheel having bad SEO.
Is there a competition? What's the prize if one wins?
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Re: Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

Post by DNS » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:42 am

Circle5 wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:57 am
I found the problem. DhammaWheel does not have a proper redirect set up to redirect from the www version to the non-www version. Also no proper redirect for the trailing slash at the end (sometimes it's dhammawheel.com/, other times it's without a trailing slash).
Webmaster fixed those.

Someone complained that the Theravada description in the header didn't have the proper diacritic, so we put the correct Pali spelling with the diacritic. Problem now is that google does not read that as "Theravada" but rather some other word. We might need to change back that if we want increased google traffic.

Webmaster said that links from other sites, linking to here, improve google rankings. So those of you who edit wikipedia or have youtube channels, facebook, etc; if you could add some links to some discussions here and that will also improve ranking.

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Re: Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

Post by Kim OHara » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:47 am

DNS wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:42 am

Webmaster fixed those.

Someone complained that the Theravada description in the header didn't have the proper diacritic, so we put the correct Pali spelling with the diacritic. Problem now is that google does not read that as "Theravada" but rather some other word. We might need to change back that if we want increased google traffic. ...
I think you have to go with what most people use, and lose the diacritic because it won't be in most people's search string.

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Re: Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

Post by mikenz66 » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:59 am

Can't alternatives be put into meta-data?

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Post by mikenz66 » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:05 am

OK, for me, starting with a "clean" Firefox (all configuration files wiped) my Google results for "buddhist discussion forum" now has:

FreeSangha
Buddhism Without Boundaries
Dharma Wheel - Index Page
Dhamma Wheel - Index Page
...
So that's progress.

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Re: Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

Post by mikenz66 » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:08 am

However, it's odd that we have:
Dhamma Wheel - Index page
https://www.dhammawheel.com/
A forum for beginners and members of other Buddhist traditions to ask questions about Theravāda (The Way of the Elders). Responses require moderator ...
Dharma Wheel - Index page
https://www.dharmawheel.net/
Academic Discussion A forum for those wishing to discuss Buddhist history and teachings in the Western academic manner, referencing appropriate sources.
Why is is picking descriptions of sub-forums, not something global, such as:
A Buddhist forum on the Dhamma of the Theravāda
A Buddhist discussion forum on Mahayana and Vajrayana Buddhism
?

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Re: Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

Post by Grigoris » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:02 am

Sam Vara wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:47 pm
Nibbana, apparently... :tongue:
From taking part in internet discussions? If only it was so easy! ;)
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Those causes have been taught by the Tathāgata,
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Re: Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

Post by No_Mind » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:30 pm

mikenz66 wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:08 am
However, it's odd that we have:
Dhamma Wheel - Index page
https://www.dhammawheel.com/
A forum for beginners and members of other Buddhist traditions to ask questions about Theravāda (The Way of the Elders). Responses require moderator ...
Why is is picking descriptions of sub-forums, not something global, such as:
A Buddhist forum on the Dhamma of the Theravāda
"A Buddhist forum on the Dhamma of the Theravāda" is not a meta description tag as far as I can see. Hence it is not showing up in the way you want. DW has no meta description

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Re: Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

Post by Dinsdale » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:12 pm

mikenz66 wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:05 am
OK, for me, starting with a "clean" Firefox (all configuration files wiped) my Google results for "buddhist discussion forum" now has:

FreeSangha
Buddhism Without Boundaries
Dharma Wheel - Index Page
Maybe DhammaWheel could place advertisments on those forums? :tongue:
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Re: Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

Post by Grigoris » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:21 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:12 pm
mikenz66 wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:05 am
OK, for me, starting with a "clean" Firefox (all configuration files wiped) my Google results for "buddhist discussion forum" now has:

FreeSangha
Buddhism Without Boundaries
Dharma Wheel - Index Page
Maybe DhammaWheel could place advertisments on those forums? :tongue:
Dhamma Wheel is advertised on Dharma Wheel and Dharma Wheel is advertised here.

They are sister sites after all.
ye dhammā hetuppabhavā tesaṁ hetuṁ tathāgato āha,
tesaṃca yo nirodho - evaṁvādī mahāsamaṇo.

Of those phenomena which arise from causes:
Those causes have been taught by the Tathāgata,
And their cessation too - thus proclaims the Great Ascetic.

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Re: Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

Post by mikenz66 » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:25 pm

No_Mind wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:30 pm
"A Buddhist forum on the Dhamma of the Theravāda" is not a meta description tag as far as I can see. Hence it is not showing up in the way you want. DW has no meta description
That may be why the strings we see on the searches look so odd...

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Re: Dhammawheel is not growing - because it has zero SEO

Post by Circle5 » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:38 pm

DNS wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:42 am
Circle5 wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:57 am
I found the problem. DhammaWheel does not have a proper redirect set up to redirect from the www version to the non-www version. Also no proper redirect for the trailing slash at the end (sometimes it's dhammawheel.com/, other times it's without a trailing slash).
Webmaster fixed those.

Someone complained that the Theravada description in the header didn't have the proper diacritic, so we put the correct Pali spelling with the diacritic. Problem now is that google does not read that as "Theravada" but rather some other word. We might need to change back that if we want increased google traffic.

Webmaster said that links from other sites, linking to here, improve google rankings. So those of you who edit wikipedia or have youtube channels, facebook, etc; if you could add some links to some discussions here and that will also improve ranking.
Good job. The URL canonicalization problem is fixed. But the trailing slash problem has not been fixed. Take a look at "server behavior": http://nibbler.silktide.com/en_US/repor ... awheel.com

This needs another code inserted into httaccess file. The one making it redirect on the trailing slash does not always work, so one might chose to redirect to non-trailing slash.

The other issues I have brought up in PM have not been fully fixed. The description has been fixed, but images have not been SEO optimized. About the metta description that people are speaking arond here, I don't know what to say. There should be a way to set this or one might add a module to set it. I really don't know.

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