Who the hell would want to be the leader? All the responsibility as David said, and you cannot avoid pissing people off. Sounds like a crap deal to me.binocular wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 9:06 pmIt looks like nobody here really wants to be a leader.Pseudobabble wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:59 pmWho are the leaders? I don't see the mods or admins doing a bad job at administrating.
Perhaps it's possible to make progress in the Dhamma even without (good) leadership.
But it doesn't seem to be possible to have a good forum atmosphere without good leadership.
Member Poll on "News, Current Events & Politics" at DW
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"Does Master Gotama have any position at all?"
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
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Re: Member Poll on "News, Current Events & Politics" at DW
It's in the News section, which we're discussing what role that will have in the near future.Mr Man wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:43 pm Look at this post David. Look at the meme. This is from your admin. Do you think this kind of post helps? Does it set a good tone?
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=29216&start=540#p472905
An admin apparently supports the Republicans and Trump. Is that illegal?
I'm an admin, I didn't vote for Trump. What am I, chopped-liver?
Re: Member Poll on "News, Current Events & Politics" at DW
Those who really want to make a difference.
All the responsibility as David said, and you cannot avoid pissing people off. Sounds like a crap deal to me.
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Ehh.. to what end?
"Does Master Gotama have any position at all?"
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
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There's something wrong with people who support Trump?
"Does Master Gotama have any position at all?"
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
Re: Member Poll on "News, Current Events & Politics" at DW
DNS wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 9:03 pm
Lead with an iron-fist, people complain. Lead with laissez-faire, people complain. It's best to try and find the perfect middle; but no matter what there will always be people complaining, because there will always be people on the receiving end of moderator actions (or in-actions).
Dhp, Kodhavagga.Indeed, this is an ancient practice, not one only of today: they blame those who remain silent, they blame those who speak much, they blame those who speak in moderation. There is none in the world who is not blamed.
... There never was, there never will be, nor is there now, a person who is wholly blamed or wholly praised.
Re: Member Poll on "News, Current Events & Politics" at DW
"Deplorable", apparently.Pseudobabble wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 9:17 pm There's something wrong with people who support Trump?
Re: Member Poll on "News, Current Events & Politics" at DW
See the OP.
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I've always enjoyed the way that it is in judging others that we make clear what we ourselves are.Sam Vara wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 9:22 pm"Deplorable", apparently.Pseudobabble wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 9:17 pm There's something wrong with people who support Trump?
"Does Master Gotama have any position at all?"
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
Re: Member Poll on "News, Current Events & Politics" at DW
It's fine that an admin supports the Republicans and Trump but in my opinion that kind of meme is not appropriate. The constant anti-leftist bashing from the admin is also in my opinion not appropriate. It surprizes me that you don't see that.DNS wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 9:10 pmIt's in the News section, which we're discussing what role that will have in the near future.Mr Man wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:43 pm Look at this post David. Look at the meme. This is from your admin. Do you think this kind of post helps? Does it set a good tone?
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=29216&start=540#p472905
An admin apparently supports the Republicans and Trump. Is that illegal?
I'm an admin, I didn't vote for Trump. What am I, chopped-liver?
I would hope, and maybe it does happen, that other members of the admin team would communicate this as kalyana mita and out of love for this forum and the dhamma.
Or perhaps they don't see it.
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RIght, but see my point about people of different stripes meeting here. That's why there's conflict - because there's difference. We have rules for the constructive use of conflictual differences - things like 'play the man, not the ball', but people usually find it hard to follow them.
"Does Master Gotama have any position at all?"
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
Re: Member Poll on "News, Current Events & Politics" at DW
Then the Trumpistas shouldn't complain about the competitive and combative atmosphere at the forum.
If you support someone who is competitive and combative, and then you get a competitive and combative atmosphere, whose fault is that?
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Genuinely, what specifically is wrong with the meme? Is there something wrong with the Stalin meme I posted? Is the same thing wrong with both?Mr Man wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 9:25 pmIt's fine that an admin supports the Republicans and Trump but in my opinion that kind of meme is not appropriate. The constant anti-leftist bashing from the admin is also in my opinion not appropriate. It surprizes me that you don't see that.DNS wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 9:10 pmIt's in the News section, which we're discussing what role that will have in the near future.Mr Man wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:43 pm Look at this post David. Look at the meme. This is from your admin. Do you think this kind of post helps? Does it set a good tone?
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=29216&start=540#p472905
An admin apparently supports the Republicans and Trump. Is that illegal?
I'm an admin, I didn't vote for Trump. What am I, chopped-liver?
I would hope, and maybe it does happen, that other members of the admin team would communicate this as kalyana mita and out of love for this forum and the dhamma.
Or perhaps they don't see it.
"Does Master Gotama have any position at all?"
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
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Re: Member Poll on "News, Current Events & Politics" at DW
Agreed. And I think competition and combat (if we take that a little more metaphorically than physical combat) can be constructive if used rightly. There's room for healthy debate and disagreement, no?binocular wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 9:29 pmThen the Trumpistas shouldn't complain about the competitive and combative atmosphere at the forum.Pseudobabble wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 9:17 pmThere's something wrong with people who support Trump?
If you support someone who is competitive and combative, and then you get a competitive and combative atmosphere, whose fault is that?
"Does Master Gotama have any position at all?"
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha