DNS wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:55 pm
Sam Vara wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:17 pm
Yes, I saw it, thanks.
(Now, about that translation service...)
I'm having difficulty understanding him too. He frequently uses, "I" "me" "my person" and "Atma"
Samana Johann 1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:57 am
And no, it's the opposite of usual Jain-approaches in "I am nothing, I do not exist"
Atma thought it's good to . . .
Atma prefers it to give ways to . . .
Jains don't say that do they? Jains believe in Atma, like the way Samana Johann 1 writes.
binocular, I can't decipher his explanation for that ever frequent "I, my person, Atma, etc." and need that translation service too.
Theu mostly do not even know that they celebrate the Jains Uposatha actually and that they are thieves, but because making a sacrifice toward to understand, giving up pride, they could grasp their faults of the past drunken in "householder-equanimity:
Namo...
"And what is the Uposatha of the Jains? There are the contemplatives called the Niganthas (Jains). They get their disciple to undertake the following practice: 'Here, my good man. Lay down the rod with regard to beings who live more than 100 leagues to the east... more than 100 leagues to the west... more than 100 leagues to the north... more than 100 leagues to the south.' Thus they get the disciple to undertake kindness & sympathy to some beings, but not to others.
"On the Uposatha day, they get their disciple to undertake the following practice: 'Here, my good man. Having stripped off all your clothing, say this: "I am nothing by anything or of anything. Thus there is nothing by anything or of anything that is mine."' Yet in spite of that, his parents know of him that 'This is our child.' And he knows of them that 'These are my parents.' His wives & children know of him that 'This is our husband & father.' And he knows of them that 'These are my wives & children.' His workers & slaves know of him that 'This is our master.' And he knows of them that 'These are my workers & slaves.' Thus at a time when he should be persuaded to undertake truthfulness, he is persuaded to undertake falsehood. At the end of the night, he resumes the consumption of his belongings, even though they aren't given back to him. This counts as stealing, I tell you. Such is the Uposatha of the Jains, Visakha. When this Uposatha of the Jains is undertaken, it is not of great fruit or great benefit, not of great glory or great radiance.
http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/tipit ... an_en.html
And if wishing to take part, hints are already given. Now let it be added, that it is very impolite not to approach a matter direct, and it's because such has not been done, clarification, out of compassion can possible hurt. There is a topic in the invitation section, where certain answers could be clearyfied, honestly and proper approached, rather to make a move forward winning favor by "we" approaches, Nyom David.