ban heretics

[dylanj]

thx for the advice

[dylanj]

David aren't you a mahayanist

[DNS]

David aren't you a mahayanist

No. All my Buddhist websites are Theravada except for the DW Mahayana forum and you can go and check over there, I hardly even post over there except to welcome new members.

[dylanj]

David aren't you a mahayanist

No. All my Buddhist websites are Theravada except for the DW Mahayana forum and you can go and check over there, I hardly even post over there except to welcome new members.

Oh ok that's good. You should delete that forum though.

[DNS]

Oh ok that's good. You should delete that forum though.

Not a chance. I'm a Theravadin, but not a follower of sectarianism. There are plenty of people who benefit from Mahayana teachings and practices. Good for them.

[SDC]

Dylan, I actually have a soft spot for you and your crew and what you have been doing over the last month or so, but if we aren't good enough for you guys then maybe DW isn't for you. Your infiltration was lost from the get go because you guys never took the time to build trust with anyone. You can't change a place when you aren't relating to the people. So either stick around, and work your way into the fabric, or log out. I don't like to see eager practitioners leave, but if all you guys want to do is try and throw your weight around, how is that going to be good for anyone?

[pilgrim]

In a Theravada group, heretics would necessarily include those who question the authenticity and authority of the Abhidhamma and the Commentaries.

[JamesTheGiant]

Even monks don't ban heretic monks, until very specific formal acts are done in a full meeting of the sangha. In the vinaya there has to be a quorum of sangha, then three formal admonitions and invitations to the heretic monk to give up pushing their heretic views, and then the sangha can vote on teling them to leave the monastery. Even then, the heretic monk can just ignore the will of the sangha. And in that case it's just up to the sangha to ignore the heretic monk if he keeps staying at the monastery.
So the Buddha didn't really make it easy to silence heresy.

[Justsit]

TOS here do not include a religious requirement for membership. Anyone who meets TOS may post, including non-Buddhists and Mahayana/Vajrayana Buddhists.

This is a privately run website, and Mr. Snyder has kindly organized and managed it, and Dharmawheel, successfully for a number of years. It is his prerogative to run it the way chooses.

If the OP does not agree with the terms here, perhaps he should start his own site.

[Kim OHara]

Even monks don't ban heretic monks, until very specific formal acts are done in a full meeting of the sangha. In the vinaya there has to be a quorum of sangha, then three formal admonitions and invitations to the heretic monk to give up pushing their heretic views, and then the sangha can vote on teling them to leave the monastery. Even then, the heretic monk can just ignore the will of the sangha. And in that case it's just up to the sangha to ignore the heretic monk if he keeps staying at the monastery.
So the Buddha didn't really make it easy to silence heresy.

And the definition of heresy is essentially left to the judgement of the sangha, i.e. the majority, on a case-by-case basis.
In this case, we have a minority wanting to ban the majority. That is not the way it works, is it?

TOS here do not include a religious requirement for membership. Anyone who meets TOS may post, including non-Buddhists and Mahayana/Vajrayana Buddhists.

This is a privately run website, and Mr. Snyder has kindly organized and managed it, and Dharmawheel, successfully for a number of years. It is his prerogative to run it the way chooses.

If the OP does not agree with the terms here, perhaps he should start his own site.

That looks like a better solution.


Kim

[ryanM]

Monty Python witch burning scene popped into my head.

[No_Mind]

oooh

An entire thread abut banning me ... oooh .. I am so important

I have never been given so much importance .. this just made my weekend .. thank you dylanj for propelling me from obscurity to top of the charts

Let me see .. I am not sure about anatta .. I sometimes feel I have an eternal soul .. and I do believe in Godhead Brahman .. and I do believe quite a few Hindus are/were enlightened (and Christians and Jews and Muslims ...) .. also chant the Gayatri Mantra .. and I believe Buddhism is not unique in leading people to salvation

I pray to Christ at least 30 minutes daily .. I read the Bible .. I say Devotions in early morning .. I pray to arch angels too .. I pray Hail Mary when I need strength and courage

Shiva and Buddha sit besides each other on my altar and sometimes havee to share the same small garland without fighting among themselves .. and of course they share the same incense sticks

is that enough or should I add more .. oh I was just about to buy silver for making a St Jude locket (the patron saint for lost causes)

[dylanj]

oooh

An entire thread abut banning me ... oooh .. I am so important

I have never been given so much importance .. this just made my weekend .. thank you dylanj for propelling me from obscurity to top of the charts

Let me see .. I am not sure about anatta .. I sometimes feel I have an eternal soul .. and I do believe in Godhead Brahman .. and I do believe quite a few Hindus are/were enlightened (and Christians and Jews and Muslims ...) .. also chant the Gayatri Mantra .. and I believe Buddhism is not unique in leading people to salvation

I pray to Christ at least 30 minutes daily .. I read the Bible .. I say Devotions in early morning .. I pray to arch angels too .. I pray Hail Mary when I need strength and courage

Shiva and Buddha sit besides each other on my altar and sometimes havee to share the same small garland without fighting among themselves .. and of course they share the same incense sticks

is that enough or should I add more .. oh I was just about to buy silver for making a St Jude locket (the patron saint for lost causes)

it's about someone else too. anyway i calmed down & changed my mind & don't think you should be banned but i glad you admitted all this publicly

[dylanj]

Dylan, I actually have a soft spot for you and your crew and what you have been doing over the last month or so, but if we aren't good enough for you guys then maybe DW isn't for you. Your infiltration was lost from the get go because you guys never took the time to build trust with anyone. You can't change a place when you aren't relating to the people. So either stick around, and work your way into the fabric, or log out. I don't like to see eager practitioners leave, but if all you guys want to do is try and throw your weight around, how is that going to be good for anyone?

thanks this is good advice & you are right & i will stop throwing a fit & accept that people on here have views which I think are wrong & try to address that more gently & compassionately

[dylanj]

I am concerned still that No_Mind was not upfront about not being a Buddhist but I guess now he has been so he's probably not intentionally doing hindu taqqiya

but the other individual this is about i think identifies as a buddhist as well as a hindu but tends to leave that latter part out even tho they hold what are explicitly wrong views from the point of the suttas

it's very deceitful. if we could put a big bright "HINDU" tag on all their posts that would help