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history sub-forum

Post by rightviewftw » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:34 pm

Seems appropriate as Buddhist history is not well taught in most countries or in some cases even censored and redacted i am sure.
Yes to history sub-forum.

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Post by retrofuturist » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:41 pm

Greetings,

We generally only create new sections, when the current setup does not enable certain topics to be addressed adequately.

I see no reason for this to be done in relation to Buddhist History, nor have we ever seen enough interest in the subject to devote an entire subforum to it.

If you wish to start a topic on Buddhist History, then by all means please do. If it becomes evident that (for whatever reason) such topics cannot be discussed under the current forum structure, then we'll consider it.

But until then...

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Re: history sub-forum

Post by Idappaccayata » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:29 am

I would also like to see a thread on Buddhist history. But I agree with Paul, it would be hard to get enough content for a whole new sub thread.

One issue I could foresee is fake information and debates about what is historical. For example I seem to remember a thread claiming the Buddha was born in Sri Lanka. Obviously Buddhist history is far from completely understood, but how could we help lead the thread towards being more of generally accepted Buddhist history?

Another idea would be to make the posts linear. Possibly spending a certain number of days or weeks on any given time frame after the Buddha's death.
The furniture may be exquisite,
And the bars of solid gold,
But once the bird realizes that the cage is a cage,
It finds within that cage
No joy

- Ajahn Jayasaro

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Re: history sub-forum

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:40 am

this could actually be great, and it's a shame that it isn't even considered by retro when there are subforums for useless posts about sports, music, politics and philosophy, etc. how all buddhist history could be covered in one thread?
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Re: history sub-forum

Post by DooDoot » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:08 am

Dhammarakkhito wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:40 am
"The Origin of the Pali Canon" for you friend www.palicanon.org
As suggested, obviously Buddhist history is far from completely understood. For example, the above webpage says King Ajātasattu sponsored the First Council 544 B.C. Yet Wikipedia says the First Buddhist council was convened just after the Buddha's passing away in ca. 400 BCE. Wiki suggests the Buddha's life was c. 563 BCE/480 BCE – c. 483 BCE/400 BCE. It seems doubtful any of the different views above are historical.

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Post by DNS » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:30 am

Don't forget the Early Buddhism sub-forum here. That certainly can include threads on Buddhist history. Later history could be added to General Theravada or other appropriate places here. Come to think of it, it would probably end up being quite redundant with an Early Buddhism sub-forum and a Buddhist history sub-forum.

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Re: history sub-forum

Post by DooDoot » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:27 am

DNS wrote:
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Hello David. Can you show me where to find the account of the 1st Buddhist Council in the Cūllavagga of the Vinaya Piṭaka? Thank you

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Re: history sub-forum

Post by DNS » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:36 pm

DooDoot wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:27 am
DNS wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:30 am
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Hello David. Can you show me where to find the account of the 1st Buddhist Council in the Cūllavagga of the Vinaya Piṭaka? Thank you
Not sure if it is online yet in English (I have the hard copy PTS version in English), but I believe most of it is in Chapter XI, including this famous line where there is no mention of Abhidhamma. (Although other opinions vary and say the five Nikayas mentioned includes Abhidhamma.)

"Then the venerable Kassapa the Great questioned the venerable Ananda as to the provenance of the Samannaphala and he questioned him as to the individual. In this same way he questioned him about the five Nikayas. Constantly, questioned, the venerable Ananda answered."

Vinaya, Cullavagga XI

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