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No_Mind wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:47 am maybe DW needs some diversity
This is a scary trigger word for many people: diversity.
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What's scary is we have a Buddhist forum, which traditionally in the West has been supported by liberal patrons, where most of the moderation decisions are made by conservatives, some very much so, that's not just political, its also goes into the interpretations of Buddhist Philosophy, and as a long time Buddhist I would have to say the the Buddhism espoused mostly on this forum is quite on the conservative side, sutta thumping, I call it. At my temple we were taught basics, and many of the ideas central to my teaching, such as reincarnation, can't even be discussed positively on this forum, because the conservative members want to tell us its only their way. I think in the future perhaps coming across as conservative should not be seen as a prerequisite for moderating. I would love for some simple Asian Buddhist monks to be involved, and their ideas not ridiculed as seems to be the norm. just saying IMHO
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If diversity were an unqualified good, then it's addition would improve every circumstance characterised by it's absence.

If that were the case, then a diverse gang of murderers would somehow be 'better' than a homogeneous gang, by virtue of being 'diverse'. Which is obviously bollocks.
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Well an exclusively white? Western group of Buddhists could greatly learn from the majority of Therevada Buddhists who are overwhelmingly brown and Asian, if that is what you call diversity, I'm all for it!!
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Greetings Lyndon,
Well an exclusively white? Western group of Buddhists could greatly learn from the majority of Therevada Buddhists who are overwhelmingly brown and Asian
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not members of this forum????
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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This forum has strong connections to original Asian teachers, but almost exclusively the Forest tradition which is just one of many many Asian and South East Asian traditions, its almost like the Buddhist version Of Mormonism or Jehovah' Witnesses for Christianity.
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lyndon taylor wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:44 amThis forum has strong connections to original Asian teachers, but almost exclusively the Forest tradition which is just one of many many Asian and South East Asian traditions, its almost like the Buddhist version Of Mormonism or Jehovah' Witnesses for Christianity.
All the others are welcome to join!
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lyndon taylor wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:48 amI would love for some simple Asian Buddhist monks to be involved, and their ideas not ridiculed as seems to be the norm.
It could be that it's precisely because they are "simple" that they don't get involved with complex environments such as this one.
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Coëmgenu wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:45 am
No_Mind wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:47 am maybe DW needs some diversity
This is a scary trigger word for many people: diversity.
How so?
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binocular wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:58 am
lyndon taylor wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:48 amI would love for some simple Asian Buddhist monks to be involved, and their ideas not ridiculed as seems to be the norm.
It could be that it's precisely because they are "simple" that they don't get involved with complex environments such as this one.
Nobody's fault.
Its sad that you see it that way, and reflects how some people are not made welcome, the Dhamma at its heart is quite simple
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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lyndon taylor wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:48 am What's scary is we have a Buddhist forum, which traditionally in the West has been supported by liberal patrons, where most of the moderation decisions are made by conservatives, some very much so, that's not just political, its also goes into the interpretations of Buddhist Philosophy, and as a long time Buddhist I would have to say the the Buddhism espoused mostly on this forum is quite on the conservative side, sutta thumping, I call it. At my temple we were taught basics, and many of the ideas central to my teaching, such as reincarnation, can't even be discussed positively on this forum, because the conservative members want to tell us its only their way. I think in the future perhaps coming across as conservative should not be seen as a prerequisite for moderating. I would love for some simple Asian Buddhist monks to be involved, and their ideas not ridiculed as seems to be the norm. just saying IMHO
If you have something to pass on from your Cambodian teachers and would love for their ideas to be here, then step up to the plate and present them. Once upon a time you posted about some of the above and some people disagreed with your interpretation. That is all that happened. I remember the thread. That is just what happens when you have so many different points of view, and it has happened to so many others including myself on multiple occasions. When has Ven. Nanavira ever been spoken about positively on DW? Doesn't mean you have to pack up and quit posting about Dhamma and then blame others for not having a suitable environment. Quite simply, Lyndon, if you have some conviction and confidence, people will heed your words. If you make everything a political or historical Buddhist scandal, it is just more of the same, and you do nothing but sabotage the legitimacy of the ideas you are putting forth. If you want to see more of your sort of Buddhism, then give us more of your sort of Buddhism. Try flicking the chip off your shoulder while your at it and you may find that there are many who want to listen to what you have to say.

Or just keep hovering around political talk and calling out meat eaters. Whatever floats your boat.
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No_Mind wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:47 am While I welcome that Sam is the new moderator .. maybe DW needs some diversity in its 9th year .. an Asian mod (Sarath possibly .. he almost lives here .. might as well mod while he is here) .. maybe a female mod (unless there already is one .. I do not think so ..) .. a black mod maybe (unless there already is one)
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lyndon taylor wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:48 am What's scary is we have a Buddhist forum, which traditionally in the West has been supported by liberal patrons, where most of the moderation decisions are made by conservatives, some very much so, that's not just political, its also goes into the interpretations of Buddhist Philosophy, and as a long time Buddhist I would have to say the the Buddhism espoused mostly on this forum is quite on the conservative side, sutta thumping, I call it. At my temple we were taught basics, and many of the ideas central to my teaching, such as reincarnation, can't even be discussed positively on this forum, because the conservative members want to tell us its only their way. I think in the future perhaps coming across as conservative should not be seen as a prerequisite for moderating. I would love for some simple Asian Buddhist monks to be involved, and their ideas not ridiculed as seems to be the norm. just saying IMHO
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