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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by No_Mind » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:14 pm

Mr Man wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:32 pm
No_Mind wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:48 pm

I was unfairly punished by DW Mod/Admin for not being liberal enough previously.
Hi No_Mind

You were punished for not being liberal enough? What do you mean?
I was banned for a month and no reasons were given. I have to take it that my general lack of sympathy for transgenders had something to do with it .. things like asking them to run few miles and take a cold bath in a thread.

I have no wish to get into that old argument. Since that thread I have become more tolerant of transpeople and would not insult them but waiting for more and authentic scientific research before I buy their story .. and till that time ignore them

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Mr Man » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:19 pm

No_Mind wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:14 pm
Mr Man wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:32 pm
No_Mind wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:48 pm

I was unfairly punished by DW Mod/Admin for not being liberal enough previously.
Hi No_Mind

You were punished for not being liberal enough? What do you mean?
I was banned for a month and no reasons were given. I have to take it that my general lack of sympathy for transgenders had something to do with it .. things like asking them to run few miles and take a cold bath in a thread.

I have no wish to get into that old argument. Since that thread I have become more tolerant of transpeople and would not insult them but waiting for more and authentic scientific research before I buy their story .. and till that time ignore them

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Okay. Thanks No_Mind.

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Pseudobabble » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:14 pm

lyndon taylor wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:11 pm
Pseudobabble wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:36 pm
lyndon taylor wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:49 am
The right wing posters never see a problem with the moderation.....
What's the problem Lyndon?
Have you noticed left wing posters like L.N. and Alan disappearing from the forum, I don't think that's a coincidence.
I had, and had presumed they contravened the TOS and were temporarily/permanently banned... Do you know differently?
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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by binocular » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:31 pm

lyndon taylor wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:52 pm
Its sad that you see it that way, and reflects how some people are not made welcome, the Dhamma at its heart is quite simple
Feel free to become enlightened.
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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by lyndon taylor » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:06 pm

binocular wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:31 pm
lyndon taylor wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:52 pm
Its sad that you see it that way, and reflects how some people are not made welcome, the Dhamma at its heart is quite simple
Feel free to become enlightened.
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Is this your idea of a Buddhist insult??
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Sam Vara » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:14 pm

lyndon taylor wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:11 pm

Have you noticed left wing posters like L.N. and Alan disappearing from the forum, I don't think that's a coincidence.
Alan tends to post intermittently, and was posting just a couple of days ago. Sometimes, things aren't as bad as we think they are.

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by binocular » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:18 pm

lyndon taylor wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:06 pm
Is this your idea of a Buddhist insult??
So you're not into enlightenment and all that stuff?

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Coëmgenu » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:23 pm

Meezer77 wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:01 pm
Coëmgenu wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:45 am
No_Mind wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:47 am
maybe DW needs some diversity
This is a scary trigger word for many people: diversity.
How so?
Some time I will innocently work the word "diversity" into a post in a specific way, just the word itself, completely innocuously and apolitically, then I will PM you. We will see how many people are triggered by something utterly non-triggering.

Being triggered transcends political divisions. I can think of various talking heads on stations like Fox News who are constantly triggered about something. I wouldn't say its just a liberal thing, though young ideological liberal university students are most famous for becoming "triggered" for certain, and afaik invented the term's current usage.

"Triggered" used to refer to triggered flashbacks of extreme trauma, like an assault or a rape.

Now it seems to refer to "being upset".
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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by lyndon taylor » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:40 pm

binocular wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:18 pm
lyndon taylor wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:06 pm
Is this your idea of a Buddhist insult??
So you're not into enlightenment and all that stuff?
No, I'm not into the idea that enlightenment or the forum has to be complex and is outside the ability of simple monks.
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by binocular » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:41 pm

Coëmgenu wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:23 pm
Some time I will innocently work the word "diversity" into a post in a specific way
Diversity of hedge fund investments.

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by lyndon taylor » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:43 pm

Coëmgenu wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:23 pm
Meezer77 wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:01 pm
Coëmgenu wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:45 am


This is a scary trigger word for many people: diversity.
How so?
Some time I will innocently work the word "diversity" into a post in a specific way, just the word itself, completely innocuously and apolitically, then I will PM you. We will see how many people are triggered by something utterly non-triggering.

Being triggered transcends political divisions. I can think of various talking heads on stations like Fox News who are constantly triggered about something. I wouldn't say its just a liberal thing, though young ideological liberal university students are most famous for becoming "triggered" for certain, in my experience.
Well our moderators went out of their way to explain how diversity is not one of their goals in the moderation team.
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by binocular » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:43 pm

lyndon taylor wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:40 pm
No, I'm not into the idea that enlightenment or the forum has to be complex and is outside the ability of simple monks.
Like I said: Feel free to become enlightened.

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by lyndon taylor » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:27 pm

binocular wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:43 pm
lyndon taylor wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:40 pm
No, I'm not into the idea that enlightenment or the forum has to be complex and is outside the ability of simple monks.
Like I said: Feel free to become enlightened.
you also said the forum has to be complex and we don't need simple Asian monks to participate.
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by SarathW » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:49 pm

>Hi Sarath. I wrote the OP as a bit of a joke. Not seriously at all. But it became a huge topic of discussion much to my surprise :lol: >

Forums are all about making a mountain out of mole hill. :D

>I was unfairly punished by DW Mod/Admin for not being liberal enough previously. Not by Paul. >

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by retrofuturist » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:11 pm

Greetings,

Just to clarify a couple of points, since these matters have come up in the conversation:

- No, there has been no disciplinary action against Alan in recent times.

- No one is discriminated against by staff on account of their political views. Once upon a time this would have happened (as per Sarath & No_Mind's experiences), but it doesn't happen now. The present team are very much against partiality in their acts of moderation, and for this reason, the Terms of Service state that...
At Dhamma Wheel, we respect your intellectual and spiritual autonomy. As such, the staff here will not enforce reverence to anyone or anything, nor censor speech gratuitously. In keeping with this respect for your autonomy, we expect you to be personally responsible for your own emotions and responses.
This isn't just a "soundbite" or a "gimmick"... it's a value which is strongly ingrained in the culture of the moderating team, and the very ability to do this is currently a non-negotiable prerequisite for being on the team.

Metta,
Paul. :)
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