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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by aflatun » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:12 pm

robertk wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:41 am
here you go: a photo of me in vietnam.
There was a link to a video somewhere too, where I am giving some explanation about the text a monk is chanting.

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=15952&hilit=sujin&start=1260
Great photo and a great thread!
"People often get too quick to say 'there's no self. There's no self...no self...no self.' There is self, there is focal point, its not yours. That's what not self is."

Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli
Senses and the Thought-1, 42:53

"Those who create constructs about the Buddha,
Who is beyond construction and without exhaustion,
Are thereby damaged by their constructs;
They fail to see the Thus-Gone.

That which is the nature of the Thus-Gone
Is also the nature of this world.
There is no nature of the Thus-Gone.
There is no nature of the world."

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by bodom » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:16 pm

Would you like my social security number as well?
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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by binocular » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:27 pm

aflatun wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:12 pm
If anyone is wondering this is a photo of me in real life:
The skinner one on the left
Is that a hair net you're wearing?
Every person we save is one less zombie to fight. -- World War Z

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by aflatun » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:31 pm

binocular wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:27 pm
aflatun wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:12 pm
If anyone is wondering this is a photo of me in real life:
The skinner one on the left
Is that a hair net you're wearing?
Yes, sometimes my hair gets out of control. It's probably a middle eastern thing...
"People often get too quick to say 'there's no self. There's no self...no self...no self.' There is self, there is focal point, its not yours. That's what not self is."

Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli
Senses and the Thought-1, 42:53

"Those who create constructs about the Buddha,
Who is beyond construction and without exhaustion,
Are thereby damaged by their constructs;
They fail to see the Thus-Gone.

That which is the nature of the Thus-Gone
Is also the nature of this world.
There is no nature of the Thus-Gone.
There is no nature of the world."

Nagarjuna
MMK XXII.15-16

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by binocular » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:33 pm

No_Mind wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:47 am
While I welcome that Sam is the new moderator .. maybe DW needs some diversity in its 9th year .. an Asian mod (Sarath possibly .. he almost lives here .. might as well mod while he is here) .. maybe a female mod (unless there already is one .. I do not think so ..) .. a black mod maybe (unless there already is one)

Just a suggestion.
As far as diversity is concerned, what possibly could make a difference is if there would be more turnover among the moderators, ie. that someone could be a moderator only for a limited amount of time specified in advance. It seems this could go a long way in undoing the impression that there are two classes of people at this forum -- the elite (ie. the moderators) and the plebeians (ie. the ordinary posters); and also in undoing some of the tension between the moderators and the ordinary posters.
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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by robertk » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:57 pm

aflatun wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:12 pm
robertk wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:41 am
here you go: a photo of me in vietnam.
There was a link to a video somewhere too, where I am giving some explanation about the text a monk is chanting.

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=15952&hilit=sujin&start=1260
Great photo and a great thread!
:anjali: thanks!

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Circle5 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:50 am

binocular wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:33 pm
As far as diversity is concerned, what possibly could make a difference is if there would be more turnover among the moderators, ie. that someone could be a moderator only for a limited amount of time specified in advance. It seems this could go a long way in undoing the impression that there are two classes of people at this forum -- the elite (ie. the moderators) and the plebeians (ie. the ordinary posters); and also in undoing some of the tension between the moderators and the ordinary posters.
:goodpost: Lack of any anti-mod abuse laws is just bound to cause troubles.


As for the stupid ideas about posting your picture and social security number and everything possible about yourself on a buddhist forum.... Imagine doing that if you are from an ultra-religious country like mine. I would never do such things on any forum, let alone a buddhist one.

Some people ask me surprised why don't I use facebook. I never had a picture and only use it from time to time to find old friends. I always ask them back: why should I, what would be the benefit of it. And that's the point where nobody can give an answer. There is zero advantage in having a facebook picture or using facebook as a whole, people just do it cause everybody else does it or for pleasure. Using facebook is just a form of entertainment same as watching football or video games, plus it's a pleasure that is rising narcissism. It has zero utility. You can do just fine phoning people that you need to meet. Not to mention how much time it would consume. If you post a picture, you need to post a good one. Then you need to post more to have a complete good looking profile, then make sure it has enough likes, etc. It would take so much time to maintain the profile at a good level and would bring me no money.

I see the exact zero utility in having people post their pictures, social security numbers or any kind of personal information on forums. What is being said is important, not who said it.

As for chosing moderators based on race as OP asked, I see no utility in that either. There is no scientific evidence that chosing people based on race has a good impact on business efficiency. Why would it have any efficiency on a forum ? Besides the lack of empirical evidence, I see no logic behind it.

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by mikenz66 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:57 am

Regarding identity, there is photo of Ven Dhammanando and I posing for a publicity shot here:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2730&start=60#p369695

There was a picture of Robert and I earlier in that thread, but it seems to have become corrupt...

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by aflatun » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:01 am

mikenz66 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:57 am
Regarding identity, there is photo of Ven Dhammanando and I posing for a publicity shot here:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2730&start=60#p369695

There was a picture of Robert and I earlier in that thread, but it seems to have become corrupt...

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Mike
What a great photo!
"People often get too quick to say 'there's no self. There's no self...no self...no self.' There is self, there is focal point, its not yours. That's what not self is."

Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli
Senses and the Thought-1, 42:53

"Those who create constructs about the Buddha,
Who is beyond construction and without exhaustion,
Are thereby damaged by their constructs;
They fail to see the Thus-Gone.

That which is the nature of the Thus-Gone
Is also the nature of this world.
There is no nature of the Thus-Gone.
There is no nature of the world."

Nagarjuna
MMK XXII.15-16

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by DNS » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:16 am

I'm an AJNAE (Jew-North African-Arab-European).
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=30999#p452765

Does that count for diversity? :tongue:

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by mikenz66 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:19 am

aflatun wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:01 am
What a great photo!
Thanks. I also like the picture of the naga a few posts later...
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2730&start=60#p369744

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by aflatun » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:21 am

DNS wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:16 am
I'm an AJNAE (Jew-North African-Arab-European).
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=30999#p452765

Does that count for diversity? :tongue:
Hah! I think what does count for diversity, of the kind I care about it anyway, is the variety of perspectives that moderators on this site bring to the table. You all have different orientations and that is a really good thing IMO. And I find you all quite tolerant as well. :thumbsup:
"People often get too quick to say 'there's no self. There's no self...no self...no self.' There is self, there is focal point, its not yours. That's what not self is."

Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli
Senses and the Thought-1, 42:53

"Those who create constructs about the Buddha,
Who is beyond construction and without exhaustion,
Are thereby damaged by their constructs;
They fail to see the Thus-Gone.

That which is the nature of the Thus-Gone
Is also the nature of this world.
There is no nature of the Thus-Gone.
There is no nature of the world."

Nagarjuna
MMK XXII.15-16

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by aflatun » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:22 am

mikenz66 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:19 am
aflatun wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:01 am
What a great photo!
Thanks. I also like the picture of the naga a few posts later...
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2730&start=60#p369744

:heart:
Mike
Nice!
"People often get too quick to say 'there's no self. There's no self...no self...no self.' There is self, there is focal point, its not yours. That's what not self is."

Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli
Senses and the Thought-1, 42:53

"Those who create constructs about the Buddha,
Who is beyond construction and without exhaustion,
Are thereby damaged by their constructs;
They fail to see the Thus-Gone.

That which is the nature of the Thus-Gone
Is also the nature of this world.
There is no nature of the Thus-Gone.
There is no nature of the world."

Nagarjuna
MMK XXII.15-16

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Dinsdale » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:06 am

binocular wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:33 pm
As far as diversity is concerned, what possibly could make a difference is if there would be more turnover among the moderators, ie. that someone could be a moderator only for a limited amount of time specified in advance.
It's a worthwhile idea, though I'm not sure how practical it would be. I used to be involved in the Quakers, and in that organisation Elders would be appointed to a particular role for a 3-year period, on the understanding that somebody else would take over the role over after the 3-year tenure. The problem is that for some roles, nobody else was willing to take over after the 3 year period. ;)

What would be useful is to recognise that moderation is a challenging role, and that people can get stale or jaded or tired over a period of time, perhaps needing a break.
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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by binocular » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:02 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:06 am
It's a worthwhile idea, though I'm not sure how practical it would be.
They do this at some other forums. AFAIK, the sister forum, DharmaWheel, has such a system (although since that forum has many more active members than this one, it's probably easier to have such a system in place).
What would be useful is to recognise that moderation is a challenging role, and that people can get stale or jaded or tired over a period of time, perhaps needing a break.
What I would like to understand better is the role of a moderator in terms of the Dhamma. A moderator has administrative power; but is a moderator to be regarded as someone who also has superior Dhammic attainment (and can therefore adjudicate in matters of the Dhamma)?
Because it seems to me that for all practical intents and purposes, this is what it comes down to.
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