A Curious Outsider

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Re: A Curious Outsider

Post by mlswe » Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:12 pm

scelerata here you might find something useful http://www.dhammasukha.org/Study/metta.htm

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Re: A Curious Outsider

Post by Atrey » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:03 pm

And Atrey, if you know yourself to be a beginner it might be wise to restrain yourself in giving advice to someone in search of the buddhadhamma, especially someone who so honestly and openly admitted her frail tendencies

wishing you well
I gave my advice in a spirit of good will and support of one beginner to the other and I'm free to express my thoughts here, just like you. I presume (and hope) you are a more experienced member, however, I find it funny for a person living the Buddhadhamma, to try to provoke or to censure others which I notice in your harsh words.
Wishing you well - honestly!

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Re: A Curious Outsider

Post by mlswe » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:27 pm

hold your horses my friend, it was a suggestion not a demand, you must know you have a choice to say what you want, as do I

I tried to get some clarification on some points which you haven´t provided

Good will is very important, as is proficiency of means, when i perceive that lacking, i will state my opinion about that lack because of my conviction that misunderstanding due to unclear phrasing is to the detriment of the dispensation and its followers

wishing you well, honestly

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Re: A Curious Outsider

Post by bodom » Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:24 pm

*moderator note*

This is the introductory forum. Please use it as such.

Atrey and mlswe if you would like to continue your discussion please start a separate thread if either of you feel so inclined. This is not the place for it. Thanks for your compliance.

The heart of the path is so simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice.

Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing.

Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this-just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle.

- Ajahn Chah

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Re: A Curious Outsider

Post by mlswe » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:03 pm

I see your point and will respect this

to my defense, i consider myself to be part of the "anyone"´s and i had thoughts and advise to share. But perhaps since this is just an "introduction" forum i have to take that generally as to mean the thoughts and ideas i will get a chance to answer in her (hopefully) other threads in other forums

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Re: A Curious Outsider

Post by octathlon » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:06 pm

Hi Christina, welcome. :smile:

I find that practicing Buddhism is calming and comfortable, as you say. The Buddha was able to perceive reality so clearly that he could see how things work (the web of cause and effect, dependent origination, etc) and how suffering is caused by our ignorance of how things really are. The noble eight-fold path is his guidance to us on how to develop the concentration and insight to see reality more clearly while giving behavioral guidlines (the precepts) that produce positive results and reduce our suffering even before we gain that wisdom. There is no God judging you as passing or failing any tests. You just gain benefits to the degree that you put effort into the practice.

As someone who also experienced a long time of suffering depression and suicidal thoughts, and benefited from professional help as well, I'm glad to hear you are getting treatment and I'd like to reassure you that it is definitely possible to eventually climb out of that negative place, let go of self-hatred and find peace. It can take a long time but it's worth it. :thumbsup: May you find happiness and freedom from suffering. :anjali:

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