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by kc2dpt
Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:40 am
Forum: Discovering Theravāda
Topic: About not kill any living being
Replies: 107
Views: 11583

Re: About not kill any living being

I read that buying meat is ok, but being a butcher is not a right livelihood. I think we need to be more specific than "ok". Buying meat is not the same as killing a cow. If one vows to abstain from killing and one buys meat then one doesn't not by doing so break that vow. It's said that because we...
by kc2dpt
Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:21 am
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: Does the Abidhamma speak about the different realms?
Replies: 40
Views: 3826

Re: Does the Abidhamma speak about the different realms?

Perhaps it would have been better stated "This statement by Ven. Bodhi seems to evince wrong view as defined by the Buddha here... Could someone explain what I'm missing?" I agree. In fact, in my opinion, this is the way all questions regarding Dhamma should be expressed. "The teaching of karma see...
by kc2dpt
Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:26 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: What's wrong with living a "normal" life?
Replies: 55
Views: 5376

Re: What's wrong with living a "normal" life?

What's wrong with going to school, getting a degree, working hard to earn a stable income, starting a family, enjoying the good, and learning how to tolerate the bad? It appears to me that such a lifestyle is inherently unstable and therefore inherently stressful. Is the "worldly life" really that ...
by kc2dpt
Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:22 pm
Forum: Discovering Theravāda
Topic: New to Theravada
Replies: 32
Views: 3386

Re: New to Theravada

I attended a discussion group a while back. Each night we would read a passage of Dhp. Everyone was encouraged to bring their favorite version and we would all read. The differences would pop out and become interesting discussions.
:reading:
by kc2dpt
Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:11 pm
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: Does the Abidhamma speak about the different realms?
Replies: 40
Views: 3826

Re: Does the Abidhamma speak about the different realms?

I don't understand why it is necessary to make inflammatory statements about Bhikkhu Bodhi and/or the Theravada such as: Is the Buddha saying Bhikkhu Bodhi does not possess Right View? I agree this is needlessly disrespectful and perhaps inflammatory. Perhaps it would have been better stated "This ...
by kc2dpt
Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:06 pm
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: Does the Abidhamma speak about the different realms?
Replies: 40
Views: 3826

Re: Does the Abidhamma speak about the different realms?

As often as I do have objections to retrofuturist's posts, I personally feel in this case he wasn't challenging Classical Theravada but rather expressing confusion and asking for help. That's the purpose of these forums, isn't it? As for the quotes retro presented, I see nothing incompatible. Anyone...
by kc2dpt
Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:59 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: "whoever is full of impurity ... remove him like rubbish"
Replies: 35
Views: 2522

Re: "whoever is full of impurity ... remove him like rubbish"

Sanghamitta wrote:How are we to understand that "kill" Peter. Clearly it is not literal.
That's why I posted the link. It is an invitation for you to read it for yourself.
by kc2dpt
Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:18 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: "whoever is full of impurity ... remove him like rubbish"
Replies: 35
Views: 2522

Re: "whoever is full of impurity ... remove him like rubbish"

What is your interpretation of the above-quoted sutta? Should we not greet or speak to people who are "full of impurity"? Or am I misunderstanding the meaning of the sutta? I interpret in in light of other suttas which speak of admirable friends, or wise friends. We should strive to associate with ...
by kc2dpt
Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:04 pm
Forum: Abhidhamma
Topic: Does the Abidhamma speak about the different realms?
Replies: 40
Views: 3826

Re: Does the Abidhamma speak about the different realms?

Is the Buddha saying Bhikkhu Bodhi does not possess Right View? It seems to me that sutta quote is teaching about anicca - the universe as we know it at one point came to be and at a future point will cease to be. As such, Ven. Bodhi would only be of wrong view if he posits a permanent and unchangi...
by kc2dpt
Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:57 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: "whoever is full of impurity ... remove him like rubbish"
Replies: 35
Views: 2522

Re: whoever is full of impurity ... remove him like rubbish

modern sensibilities would put us at odds with the Buddha. It is not uncommon, in my experience, to find modern sensibilities at odds with the Buddha. The Buddha of the scriptures was not as much of a fluffy bunny as some modern spiritual teachers would suggest. If any of us advocated sweeping some...
by kc2dpt
Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:35 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Dhammapada Resources
Replies: 19
Views: 5150

Re: Dhammapada Resources

If one wants recommendations, then give them. If one does not want recommendations, then don't give them. Some people want recommendation, some don't. I do not see what is so difficult here. If you value recommendations I do not see the point in criticizing others who don't value them. Likewise, if ...
by kc2dpt
Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:25 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Luminious mind
Replies: 154
Views: 17229

Re: Luminious mind

but what i was getting at is there may be a reason to assume the same thing may have been true for indian Buddhism. It may be or it may not be. I don't know nor, frankly, do I care. It's enough on my plate to just learn and practice this one set of teachings without worrying about other sets of tea...
by kc2dpt
Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:18 am
Forum: Discovering Theravāda
Topic: About not kill any living being
Replies: 107
Views: 11583

Re: About not kill any living being

I think I'm simplifying it by drawing focus exclusively to the mind and the intentional action spawned from it I totally didn't get that from your initial comment, but I do agree with this (as evidenced by my last comment in the other thread). Though I think it brings us into some difficult territo...
by kc2dpt
Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:48 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Luminious mind
Replies: 154
Views: 17229

Re: Luminious mind

i did a project involving Ganesha and the only rational way to understand the differences in his representation is to see that there are many different Hinduisms. different religions just being lumped together I thought this was common knowledge. I had a friend who was from India and he explained H...
by kc2dpt
Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:00 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Sentience
Replies: 89
Views: 7071

Re: Sentience

So far there are no references to any Buddhist text anywere in this discussion unless I have overlooked one......so is this all just personal views with no support from the Buddha's teachings? There have been a number of references. Simply put: it has to do with realms of birth. As far as I know, n...
by kc2dpt
Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:56 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Sentience
Replies: 89
Views: 7071

Re: Sentience

As someone said in this thread, a line must be drawn. And as was said, the line is humans and animals including insects, and not plants or bacteria or viruses. It's a very simple and clear line and I don't understand why people find this so difficult. I was wondering where that line is and, more sp...
by kc2dpt
Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:45 pm
Forum: Discovering Theravāda
Topic: New to Theravada
Replies: 32
Views: 3386

Re: New to Theravada

hi I've been reading much on Buddhism and I find that I agree with a lot of what I understand. My problem is that when I read I have some trouble relating to it. It's words on the computer that I can relate to in an intellectual level but the human element gets sort of lost. I hear ya. It seems, ho...
by kc2dpt
Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:55 am
Forum: Discovering Theravāda
Topic: About not kill any living being
Replies: 107
Views: 11583

Re: About not kill any living being

As I have learned it, the teachings on anatta do not invalidate the teachings on virtue.
by kc2dpt
Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:54 am
Forum: Discovering Theravāda
Topic: About not kill any living being
Replies: 107
Views: 11583

Re: About not kill any living being

Nope. Youc killed him and took his life away. what is the "him" that was killed? The mosquito. Wouldn't this event have triggered rebirth consciousness and in turn, the first moment of consciousness in a new psycho-physical organism? Unless the mosquito had attained arahantship, yes. If the so-call...
by kc2dpt
Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:08 am
Forum: Discovering Theravāda
Topic: About not kill any living being
Replies: 107
Views: 11583

Re: About not kill any living being

If I have a pistol and there is a hungry lion in front of me ready to attack me, I shouldnt use the pistol? As I understand the Buddha teachings, a wise person who abhors suffering and desires peace would not try to kill the hungry lion with the pistol. "Monks, even if bandits were to carve you up ...