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by Spiny Norman
Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:34 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?
Replies: 384
Views: 13361

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

the arising of knowledge that all phenomena are not-self?" See my bolded highlight. Frankly I'm amazed that you still don't understand this passage. It couldn't be clearer. I understand not self You lack control on some level, right Because it’s not self "The arising of knowledge that all...
by Spiny Norman
Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:30 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18905

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

cappuccino wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:09 pm The Paradoxical Nature of the Self

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Buddhism doesn't teach only one consciousness (Brahman in Advaita).
That's an obvious difference between the two traditions.

What you personally believe is fine, but here we're on a Buddhist forum, discussing Buddhist teachings.
by Spiny Norman
Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:05 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18905

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

cappuccino wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:00 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:55 pm Adyashanti isn't an Advaitan.
He teaches Advaita and Zen
No he doesn't. It's his own creation, a mish-mash.
by Spiny Norman
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:55 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18905

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

cappuccino wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:51 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:50 pm No. In Advaita the sheaths (koshas) are not Atman.
"There is no self in self-consciousness. The self is inferred, not actual." —Adyashanti
Irrelevant quote-mining. Adyashanti isn't an Advaitan.
by Spiny Norman
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:51 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18905

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

cappuccino wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:48 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:47 pm You clearly don't know.
Free advise is easy to ignore
That's your problem right there. Stubbornly ignoring people who actually understand this stuff.
by Spiny Norman
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18905

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

cappuccino wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:46 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:46 pm Advaita teaches Atman/Brahman.
And no self, sorry it’s true
No. In Advaita the sheaths (koshas) are not Atman. In Buddhism the aggregates are not self, but there is no Atman.
Again, this is basic stuff, which you clearly haven't understood.
by Spiny Norman
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:47 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18905

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

cappuccino wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:46 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:45 pm You stubbornly refuse to listen, but why?
I know what Advaita teaches.
You clearly don't know.
by Spiny Norman
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:46 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18905

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

cappuccino wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:44 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:43 pm Advaita teaches Atman,
Advaita also teaches no self
Wrong. Advaita teaches Atman/Brahman.
by Spiny Norman
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18905

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

cappuccino wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:19 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:13 pm Annihilation implies there is a self to be destroyed.
Sorry that’s not what Buddha said
That is exactly what the Buddha said.
You stubbornly refuse to listen, but why?
by Spiny Norman
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:43 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18905

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

cappuccino wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:33 pm
Ceisiwr wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:29 pm Ven. Ṭhānissaro is wrong
No self is Advaita...
Wrong again. Advaita teaches Atman, whereas Buddhism teaches anatman.
This is basic stuff. :shrug:
by Spiny Norman
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:13 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18905

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

cappuccino wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:37 pm
Ceisiwr wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:24 pm :rolleye:
I focus on the spirit of the holiday
:shrug:
by Spiny Norman
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:13 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18905

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

cappuccino wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:46 pm
Ceisiwr wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:05 pm They don't look at why it would be agreeing with Annihilationism.
Because no self implies annihilation
No, it doesn't. Annihilation implies there is a self to be destroyed.
by Spiny Norman
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:10 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18905

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

Ceisiwr wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:18 pm
You're confused as to if Santa Claus exists or not?
:rolleye:
by Spiny Norman
Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:27 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?
Replies: 384
Views: 13361

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

"If I … were to answer that there is no self, that would be conforming with … annihilationism. If I … were to answer that there is a self, would that be in keeping with the arising of knowledge that all phenomena are not-self?" "No, lord." "And if I … were to answer that th...
by Spiny Norman
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:05 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?
Replies: 384
Views: 13361

Re: When & why did the teaching on momentariness emerge?

cappuccino wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:43 am
Alex123 wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:02 pm Buddha didn't explicitly emphasize "The Self doesn't exist" very often.
He won’t say self does not exist
Because that implies wrongly
Why wrongly?