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by retrofuturist
Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:01 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does Theravāda avoid elitist interference in the affairs of others?
Replies: 32
Views: 516

Re: Does Theravāda avoid elitist interference in the affairs of others?

Greetings bhante, This notion of "elites" that I think you are referring to has more to do with opinions in a modern worldview. Personally I don't believe these "elites" even exist today, let alone would be relevant to a discussion about the Buddha's time. But clearly we have different opinions on t...
by retrofuturist
Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does Theravāda avoid elitist interference in the affairs of others?
Replies: 32
Views: 516

Re: Does Theravāda avoid elitist interference in the affairs of others?

Greetings, Isn't Kalyanamitta should point out the draw backs to his friend? True, but let's take a real-life example where a rather presumptuous kalayana-mitta once took it upon himself to forcefully voice his opinion about what I should and should not do in relation to a certain matter. However, I...
by retrofuturist
Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:05 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does Theravāda avoid elitist interference in the affairs of others?
Replies: 32
Views: 516

Re: Does Theravāda avoid elitist interference in the affairs of others?

Greetings Sarath, Another occasion is Buddha try to stop the massacre of Sakyan unsuccessfully. I think he tried to save people if it was in his disposal. For instance he could not save Devadatta. I think you may be missing part of the subtlety of this topic. It's not simply about a willingness to h...
by retrofuturist
Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:56 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does Theravāda avoid elitist interference in the affairs of others?
Replies: 32
Views: 516

Re: Does Theravāda avoid elitist interference in the affairs of others?

Greetings Sarath,
SarathW wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:55 am
Didn't Buddha interfere with Angulimala?
Could you elaborate further, and explain in what way he may have done so?

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:49 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does Theravāda avoid elitist interference in the affairs of others?
Replies: 32
Views: 516

Does Theravāda avoid elitist interference in the affairs of others?

Greetings, I have created this topic to explore whether and to what extent the Theravāda tradition, as measured by either the Tipitaka, the commentarial tradition, and/or by lived cultural experience, avoids the temptation to intervene, interfere and impose itself upon the affairs of others. I think...
by retrofuturist
Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:46 pm
Forum: Dhammaduta (Dhamma propagation)
Topic: PM about dhammaboard.co
Replies: 25
Views: 730

Re: PM about dhammaboard.co

Greetings Sarath, Currently I am in three Dhamma forums. Sutta Central and Stack Exchange are the other two. I've got a pretty good sense of Sutta Central, how it works, its value proposition and its approach... but I've never used Stack Exchange before. How would you describe it as a place to discu...
by retrofuturist
Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:10 pm
Forum: Dhammaduta (Dhamma propagation)
Topic: PM about dhammaboard.co
Replies: 25
Views: 730

Re: PM about dhammaboard.co

Greetings James,
JamesTheGiant wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:07 pm
(Is un-impartial a proper word? Not biased, but just strongly invested in a particular view.)
I think if you drop the double-negative, you'll just be left with 'partial'.

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:16 pm
Forum: Dhammaduta (Dhamma propagation)
Topic: PM about dhammaboard.co
Replies: 25
Views: 730

Re: PM about dhammaboard.co

Greetings,

Link: Dhammaboard - Retracing the steps

sabba danam dhamma danam jinati

:candle:

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:11 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can you see Dependent Origination instantly at this (thought) moment?
Replies: 48
Views: 760

Re: Can you see Dependent Origination instantly at this (thought) moment?

Greetings,
SkillfulA wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:21 pm
BTW what is PS?
Shorthand for paticcasamuppada, aka dependent origination, aka DO.

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:06 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Are there any Nanoviraist monasteries?
Replies: 19
Views: 425

Re: Are there any Nanoviraist monasteries?

Greetings, Which one of his "points" addressed any of my questions? I think none. I think these are all what we would call 'meta-discussion?' Rebutting misrepresentations and mischaracterisations is not meta-discussion. Your post on the other hand is. Please learn what "disruptive meta-discussion" i...
by retrofuturist
Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:19 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Are all subject to suffering (Dukkha) except Arahants?
Replies: 8
Views: 76

Re: Are all subject to suffering (Dukkha) except Arahants?

Greetings, This is just a guess. If you become enlightened right now , looking back you would say. 'oh' i was suffering. Now this is peaceful and cool. That's quite possible, but there is also sukha , and one should not focus on dukkha to the exclusion of sukha . After all, Dhamma conversation with ...
by retrofuturist
Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:48 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Are all subject to suffering (Dukkha) except Arahants?
Replies: 8
Views: 76

Re: Are all subject to suffering (Dukkha) except Arahants?

Greetings,
SarathW wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:30 am
Does this mean that I am suffering when I write this post and you are also suffering when you answer my post?
Are you suffering, or just giving rise to the potential for suffering?

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:36 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is timeless model of the dependent origination of conditioned phenomena?
Replies: 32
Views: 446

Re: What is timeless model of the dependent origination of conditioned phenomena?

Greetings cappuccino, Idappaccayatā, of which paticcasamuppada is an elaboration, is indeed crucial. that all things arise and exist due to certain causes, and cease once these causes are removed Yes. Dwelling at Savatthi... Then Ven. Kaccayana Gotta approached the Blessed One and, on arrival, havin...
by retrofuturist
Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:29 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is timeless model of the dependent origination of conditioned phenomena?
Replies: 32
Views: 446

Re: What is timeless model of the dependent origination of conditioned phenomena?

Greetings cappuccino, Dependent origination was an insight after his enlightenment. It isn't crucial. I think you'll find that it was the Buddha's detailed articulation and formulations of paticcasamuppada that came after his enlightenment, rather than his insight into it. Idappaccayatā, of which pa...
by retrofuturist
Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is timeless model of the dependent origination of conditioned phenomena?
Replies: 32
Views: 446

Re: What is timeless model of the dependent origination of conditioned phenomena?

Greetings,
retrofuturist wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:58 am
Ivy Piyen wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:55 am
Anyway i am not interested in further discussion with you.
:anjali:
:focus:

Metta,
Paul. :)