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by retrofuturist
Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:12 am
Forum: Dhammaduta (Dhamma propagation)
Topic: Is there a good reason to call western monks Ajahn?
Replies: 19
Views: 923

Re: Is there a good reason to call western monks Ajahn?

Greetings, That's true. I was thinking of situations where people also address monks as Ajahn when speaking in the first person. Yes, I understand. When I've spoken to them directly, I've called them "bhante", but referred to them as "bhikkhu" in the third. I think that's partly why I prefer "bhikkh...
by retrofuturist
Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:02 am
Forum: Dhammaduta (Dhamma propagation)
Topic: Is there a good reason to call western monks Ajahn?
Replies: 19
Views: 923

Re: Is there a good reason to call western monks Ajahn?

Greetings,
pilgrim wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:58 am
another correct term such as Bhante?
Bhante isn't correct either, because bhante is a first-person form of address, and to speak of Bhante Such-and-Such in the third-person is incorrect.

My preference is for "Bhikkhu".

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:33 pm
Forum: Hot Topics
Topic: The right to cause offense
Replies: 26
Views: 1105

Re: The right to cause offense

Greetings Mr.Man, The idea that "one cannot cause offense in others" is not an idea that I believe to be supported by the Buddha's teaching. Really? One need do no more than start to read the Dhammapada... 1. Mind precedes all mental states . Mind is their chief; they are all mind-wrought. If with a...
by retrofuturist
Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:32 am
Forum: Hot Topics
Topic: The right to cause offense
Replies: 26
Views: 1105

Re: The right to cause offense

Greetings, Please note... discussion on this topic must make reference to Theravada Buddhist sources, or at least draw a clear inference from them. If people wish to discuss this topic in a broader political context, I would recommend doing so in the Social Justice section of the Dharma Wheel Engage...
by retrofuturist
Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:54 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.
Replies: 163
Views: 5771

Re: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.

Greetings TR & DooDoot,

If there's any further need for conversation on this matter, please consider creating a new topic or conducting it via private correspondence.

Many thanks.

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:50 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Did the Buddha ever state flatly...
Replies: 29
Views: 1065

Re: Did the Buddha ever state flatly...

Greetings, Is it as direct about the Buddha as the many firm statements that seem to clearly state that The Buddha had no desire whatsoever? Like does it specify that the Buddha specifically had skillful desire. If so, are there any suttas that clarify how he both had desire but also was detached an...
by retrofuturist
Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:35 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Did the Buddha ever state flatly...
Replies: 29
Views: 1065

Re: Did the Buddha ever state flatly...

Greetings Zan, Saying he had desire, skillful or otherwise, contradicts the above sutta quotes. However I'm curious as to where or how this is explained in the suttas. Somewhere in the suttas there's a simile given about walking to the other side of the park, to demonstrate the difference between sk...
by retrofuturist
Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:11 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.
Replies: 163
Views: 5771

Re: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.

Greetings Diamind, Theres one thing that Bhante Sujatos students will never forget, "Kamma isnt the cause of everything" You just dont forget something like that... Well, since that's literally what the suttas say , surely that's a good thing. Well said, Bhikkhu Sujato! :anjali: As such, I'm not qui...
by retrofuturist
Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:00 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.
Replies: 163
Views: 5771

Re: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.

Greetings,

And further to venerable Dhammanando's point above, I'm sure those who were committed first and foremost to the teachings of the Sutta Pitaka had more than enough to contend with, simply in memorizing, reciting and transmitting the suttas.

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:54 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.
Replies: 163
Views: 5771

Re: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.

Greetings diamind, Such questions would be best put to Bhikkhu Sujato over at Sutta Central, but since you ask... Can anyone give the history of Bhante sujato He was in an indie band once. ...and what he represents in the buddhist world? A sutta / "Early Buddhism" worldview, in stark contrast to a c...
by retrofuturist
Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:59 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.
Replies: 163
Views: 5771

Re: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.

Greetings TRobinson465, Are you suggesting one person's kamma can manifest as the kamma (action) of a second person? If so, who is morally responsible for the second person's deeds? Side note : As for the Theragatha, I'd be wary of putting it on par with the four nikayas... According to Rhys Davids,...
by retrofuturist
Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:26 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.
Replies: 163
Views: 5771

Re: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.

Greetings TRobinson465, Conformity with the suttas is still open ended. Sure, but where has Bhikkhu Sujato faltered in his interpretation of the suttas in this particular matter? Unless one can find sutta that clearly refutes his exposition, then it might be judicious to be a bit less cavalier in on...
by retrofuturist
Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:07 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.
Replies: 163
Views: 5771

Re: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.

Greetings TRobinson465, If you think bhante sujato is teaching the "true" kamma without direct knowledge then at best you can say he got this using scriptural interpretation, which was undoubtedly influenced by his anti-"asian superstition" western background or something, since he clearly didnt get...
by retrofuturist
Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:14 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.
Replies: 163
Views: 5771

Re: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.

Greetings, Being hit by a falling TV is due to someone else's carelessness but whether you die, suffer serious or minor injuries is due to your past kamma. There is no Group kamma. Hundreds of people can be at the wrong place when it is hit by a tsunami . But kamma determines who survives and who do...
by retrofuturist
Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:12 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.
Replies: 163
Views: 5771

Re: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.

Greetings TRobinson, In this case i think Bhante Sujato didnt learn this idea from a tradition or Thai teacher, as this POV seems to contradict virtually all Buddhist traditions view of kamma. I think he might just be presenting his own opinion influenced by his secularized, Buddhism in this lifetim...