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by Heavenstorm
Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:27 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada and Zen - a comparative analysis
Replies: 74
Views: 41524

Re: Theravada and Zen - a comparative analysis

In other words, Huineng took what was becoming a ridiculous superstition and then tried to turn it into something useful. Gautama did the same thing with proto-Hindu beliefs... I see Bodhidharma and Huineng turning Chinese folk religion on its head as basically being the same thing Gautama did with...
by Heavenstorm
Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:03 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravada and Zen - a comparative analysis
Replies: 74
Views: 41524

Re: Theravada and Zen - a comparative analysis

However, since exposure to chat sites, I notice Zen adherents verge towards extremes of nothingness and are soft in moral foundation. A further problem is that many of them believe in a sudden instance of Enlightenment rather than a gradual experience. Hence they see the non necessity of studying s...
by Heavenstorm
Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:49 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Temporary Arahantship?
Replies: 9
Views: 5625

Re: Temporary Arahantship?

clw_uk wrote:Thank you both, as i do not believe arahantship is temporary it must mean jhana state or something like it.
According to Kathavatthu, Points of Controversy, arahantship must be permanent,
by Heavenstorm
Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:23 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Entering the stream
Replies: 38
Views: 13076

Re: Entering the stream

1. As with all the ariyan paths and fruits, the supramundane jhāna at the moment of attaining the path and fruit of non-returning may be at the level of any of the five jhānas. 2. The fact that non-returners are reborn in the Suddhāvāsas is due to their eradication of all the causes for rebirth in ...
by Heavenstorm
Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:57 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Entering the stream
Replies: 38
Views: 13076

Re: Entering the stream

I think I've posted this somewhere here already. The Jhānas and the Lay Disciple According to the Pāli Suttas ~ Ven. Bhikkhu Bodhi http://mail.saigon.com/~anson/ebud/ebdha267.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Thanks for the articles, it confirms my previous guess that pra...
by Heavenstorm
Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:04 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Entering the stream
Replies: 38
Views: 13076

Re: Entering the stream

As far as I can see you're all entangled in a great tangle, and too far away from attaining at least the first jhana. :cry: Except that one can enter the stream without Jhanas, even the some hardcore Theravadins will agree that access concentration is enough for the entry and at that instance, supe...
by Heavenstorm
Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:44 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How necessary is Abhidhamma study?
Replies: 33
Views: 13683

Re: How necessary is Abhidhamma study?

Element wrote:Offering my opinion, studying Abidhamma is a total waste of time. Ajahn Chah did not study it nor Ajahn Buddhadasa.
Not necessary.....perhaps but waste of time???? Come on, where do you get this from?