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by kirk5a
Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Death or annihilation as the end point
Replies: 72
Views: 4648

Re: Death or annihilation as the end point

Perhaps the modernists and the traditionalists are not as far apart as they might seem. In both cases the end is annihilation. The modernists just have the annihilation come earlier... They are miles apart. The "tradition" says things I've never heard from a "modernist" - for example Freed from the...
by kirk5a
Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Evidence of reincarnation
Replies: 118
Views: 6839

Re: Evidence of reincarnation

Can those who insist there is "no evidence" of rebirth provide a hypothetical example of something they would consider "evidence"? Sir A. J. Ayer, the logical positivist guy, had a pretty good one. He argued that it would be sufficient for the truth of the belief that the man standing beside you is...
by kirk5a
Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:57 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Evidence of reincarnation
Replies: 118
Views: 6839

Re: Evidence of reincarnation

Can those who insist there is "no evidence" of rebirth provide a hypothetical example of something they would consider "evidence"?
by kirk5a
Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:23 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why the emphasis on mindfulness in the body?
Replies: 10
Views: 599

Re: Why the emphasis on mindfulness in the body?

The strong tendency for self-identification in relation to the body is probably one reason. Also, it's good to ground mindfulness in the body, it spreads the energy around and has a balancing and grounding effect.
by kirk5a
Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:48 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Evidence of reincarnation
Replies: 118
Views: 6839

Re: Evidence of reincarnation

if only we could read the Brahmajala Sutta to learn about foundations for views... I'm looking at the Brahmajala Sutta, it talks about the foundations for certain views being rooted in prior lives, as well as the direct meditative recollection of prior lives. How does that make evidence for rebirth...
by kirk5a
Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:01 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Evidence of reincarnation
Replies: 118
Views: 6839

Re: Evidence of reincarnation

The facts as present are as Ben put them: There is no credible scientific evidence of rebirth or reincarnation. People either take it a metaphor or take it on faith. Kind regards, Ben Since there have been those, from ancient as well as in modern times, who say they have seen the truth of rebirth f...
by kirk5a
Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:07 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Evidence of reincarnation
Replies: 118
Views: 6839

Re: Evidence of reincarnation

Ben wrote:
daverupa wrote:Or they remove views altogether... :tongue:
Well yes, eventually.
No they don't.
by kirk5a
Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:03 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2166
Views: 92927

Re: Continuation of conciousness / awareness

Myotai wrote:And very 'Zen' like.....nothing wrong in that though - just not what we're looking for
Right, because you're trying to grasp non-grasping.
by kirk5a
Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:05 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2166
Views: 92927

Re: Continuation of conciousness / awareness

The problem with what is normally considered an "answer" - "objectifies non-objectification" as Ven. Sariputta said. In other words, what we're talking about isn't graspable by thought . It gets to the heart of non-grasping itself. Total non-grasping cannot be put into terms which inherently involve...
by kirk5a
Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:03 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2166
Views: 92927

Re: Continuation of conciousness / awareness

The Buddha did answer this question actually. He said exists after death, does not exist, both or neither - "do not apply" - and used the metaphor of the ocean to explain why. the Tathagata is deep, boundless, hard to fathom, like the ocean http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn44/sn44.001.th...
by kirk5a
Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:07 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2166
Views: 92927

Re: Continuation of conciousness / awareness

When A Buddha dies 'he/she' possesses no state and there for consciousness ceases as do an awareness of self and other leaving nothing behind? The mind is unable to grasp a satisfactory answer to that. "nothing" is not accurate, nor any other description revolving around nothing, something, both or...
by kirk5a
Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:00 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Can experienced meditators help ?
Replies: 32
Views: 2812

Re: Can experienced meditators help ?

There are 11 doors to the Deathless, formless jhanas included. "Then again, a monk — with the complete transcending of perceptions of [physical] form, with the disappearance of perceptions of resistance, and not heeding perceptions of diversity, [perceiving,] 'Infinite space' — enters & remains in t...
by kirk5a
Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:12 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Can experienced meditators help ?
Replies: 32
Views: 2812

Re: Can experienced meditators help ?

I feel absolutely FREE , EMPTY , like there is nothing there , no body sensations no nothing This part is interesting - I'd find a high quality teacher and investigate this further if I were you. And yeah, perhaps becoming a monk is the right thing for you. Something to consider, you're still young...
by kirk5a
Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:17 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Did the Buddha contradict himself?
Replies: 62
Views: 3865

Re: Did the Buddha contradict himself?

Although the Buddha taught that there is no permanent, eternal, immutable, independently-existing core “self” (attā), he also taught that there is “action” or “doing”, and that it is therefore meaningful to speak of one who intends, initiates, sustains and completes actions and deeds, and who is th...
by kirk5a
Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:13 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3779

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

I'm not sure you will find any great difference between one bod and another. We all have sankharas arising and passing. See yourself and you see others inc the Buddha, who also operates in the same way. Though well done Kirk5a Either you have attained or have gained psychic powers. May I offer my c...
by kirk5a
Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:27 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3779

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

I'm not sure you will find any great difference between one bod and another. We all have sankharas arising and passing. See yourself and you see others inc the Buddha, who also operates in the same way. Though well done Kirk5a Either you have attained or have gained psychic powers. May I offer my c...
by kirk5a
Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Core teaching of the Buddha
Replies: 71
Views: 3779

Re: Core teaching of the Buddha

terryshine wrote: Speculating on whether there will be a future life or not can only hinder your practice.
I have confirmed that is not true for myself. Why make global pronouncements? You don't actually know the truth of "can only hinder," "the only place," etc.
by kirk5a
Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:44 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: What is the meaning of "Birth is ended"?
Replies: 131
Views: 6382

Re: What is the meaning of "Birth is ended"?

Why do you say that? As I explained above, birth is referred to earlier in the same sutta in the usual way as an aspect of dukkha, along with ageing and death. Because "birth" there is in reference to eye consciousness and what arises in dependence upon contact at the eye. It is aflame with birth, ...
by kirk5a
Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:48 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: What is the meaning of "Birth is ended"?
Replies: 131
Views: 6382

Re: What is the meaning of "Birth is ended"?

One sutta where this refrain occurs is the Fire Sermon. But earlier in the sutta we see: "Burning with what? Burning with the fire of lust, with the fire of hate, with the fire of delusion. I say it is burning with birth, ageing and death, with sorrows, with lamentations, with pains, with griefs, w...
by kirk5a
Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:39 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: What is the meaning of "Birth is ended"?
Replies: 131
Views: 6382

Re: What is the meaning of "Birth is ended"?

Another difficulty with this topic is that, as far as I have seen, "Birth is ended" in the suttas is a knowledge which belongs exclusively to arahants. I feel that interpretations of this knowledge by non-arahants is going to be speculation, by definition, and therefore not very trustworthy. Khina j...