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by kirk5a
Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:58 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: sensing and cognizing
Replies: 40
Views: 2757

Re: sensing and cognizing

External object is Rupa, conceptualization is Nama External object is cause, conceptualization is effect without the cause there would be no effect there would be no conceptualizing mind the cause is impermanent, the effect is impermanent there is only arising, and passing away with metta Well I ca...
by kirk5a
Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:35 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: sensing and cognizing
Replies: 40
Views: 2757

Re: sensing and cognizing

Both The short answer I suppose is that mental conceptualizing is related, causally, and mixed in with it, presently. If the mental conceptualizing is related -- and you just related the mental conceptualizing to the experience -- are there one or two forms of mental conceptualizing going on there?...
by kirk5a
Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:12 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: sensing and cognizing
Replies: 40
Views: 2757

Re: sensing and cognizing

Individual wrote: Both
The short answer I suppose is that mental conceptualizing is related, causally, and mixed in with it, presently.
by kirk5a
Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:34 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: sensing and cognizing
Replies: 40
Views: 2757

Re: sensing and cognizing

I have long felt there is something very important about the distinction between the mental conception of (x) and (x) itself. does the conceptualizing arise *of necessity*? I don't actually see why that should be the case. Is this right here a mental conception? :) What are you referring to by "thi...
by kirk5a
Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: sensing and cognizing
Replies: 40
Views: 2757

sensing and cognizing

Hey all, my first post here, what a great forum! (I guess I'll put this in the Suttanta method section, since I reference a sutta meditation instruction) I'm not sure if this is a question, observation, or topic starter, but it's something of interest to me. I have long felt there is something very ...