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by nathan
Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:46 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: minimum to no discipline...
Replies: 21
Views: 3061

Re: minimum to no discipline...

You can practice meditation either with or without discipline but the trade of is more awareness of more suffering. For predominantly pleasant meditation to arise more commonly overall there must be a basis of virtue and that requires discipline in all aspects of life. So you are noting what would b...
by nathan
Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:34 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: A question about "Buddhist" economics.
Replies: 3
Views: 648

Re: A question about "Buddhist" economics.

I like the DN, no offense intended to anyone who doesn't. No reason a world with conditions this different could not have been or could not be again at some point. These relatively pleasant conditions are not any different at the root from those unpleasant conditions which predominate in our time as...
by nathan
Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:07 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Arahants Tears
Replies: 48
Views: 4841

Re: Arahants Tears

There is no question of an arahant giving rise to grief about the aggregates or the world. Abandoning all that of is an arahant and we don't need the crying at the Buddha's funeral to define this. If there is a question then it is why would an arahant produce a tear? Never? I don't think that is at ...
by nathan
Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:20 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Arahants Tears
Replies: 48
Views: 4841

Re: Arahants Tears

Man, I can't believe it can be so difficult for anyone to get what I am saying. I understand what your saying I just see arahants differently to you friend :namaste: I didnt say that they werent allowed to be expressive, but I do not hold that they would engage in crying in relation to desire and a...
by nathan
Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:01 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Anattā
Replies: 53
Views: 7565

Re: Anattā

'All dhammas are without Self', there is no Self, no Atman, not only in the Five Aggregates, but nowhere else too outside them or apart from them." metta Chris Unquestionably. An - atta. One could say fully and indisputably anatta. Overcomingly anatta. It is only in relation to the conditions from ...
by nathan
Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:30 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hi from Nathan
Replies: 10
Views: 1630

Re: Hi from Nathan

Thanks, I thought I would add that it is great to find so many good friends here, both old and new. A great place to keep learning and adding to understanding of the path. Forums have been so helpful to me, I'm so thankful for the overall understanding that everyone brings together whether it is ass...
by nathan
Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:18 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Arahants Tears
Replies: 48
Views: 4841

Re: Arahants Tears

Its not about an arahants need to feel happy or sad it is about what gets his message accross. It is about what the hearer will feel. How we relate to expressions about profound changes in thinking and feeling. Vedana, feeling is central to the path. What we feel, in relation to ourselves, to dhamma...
by nathan
Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:02 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Why there is no re-linking consciousness
Replies: 55
Views: 6694

Re: Why there is no re-linking consciousness

'I'm' standing by 'my' ignorance, until 'I' either kick the habit or 'my' ignorance rebirths 'me'. :jumping: This is kind of a snark hunt either way isn't it? Considering? The ongoing ignorance pertains to all the aggregates, trying to locate it as confined in some way within any one of these condit...
by nathan
Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:43 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Arahants Tears
Replies: 48
Views: 4841

Re: Arahants Tears

How do you propose tears can help teach the dhamma? To cry is to act either with aversion of delight which the arahant has abandonded. With Metta :namaste: How can you be so certain what it is an act of? Why should an arahant not have all the capacities of a full human being? Why they act at all is...
by nathan
Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:12 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Why there is no re-linking consciousness
Replies: 55
Views: 6694

Re: Why there is no re-linking consciousness

There is a rebirth linking ignorance, find that and I believe you've got the sucker causing all the problems. :rofl: It is said that in some kinds of divine or non-return type of births there is conscious knowledge of passing in one world and of re-arising in another which demonstrates a conscious c...
by nathan
Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:56 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Arahants Tears
Replies: 48
Views: 4841

Re: Arahants Tears

It is an interesting topic. Communicating in person is not just about words but real direct two way understandings. We relate to tears, laughter and feelings as much as we do to thoughts and words when we communicate. And if tears communicated the message of the dhamma to the people in a profound wa...
by nathan
Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:35 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Arahants Tears
Replies: 48
Views: 4841

Re: Arahants Tears

I have to agree, what arahant needs tears who has no cause in the world for tears? Still an arahant may give tears as a gift should it communicate the dhamma. No? Who among us can judge an arahant? I know what all things should mean to an arahant but I do not know the range of their acts. Whatever t...
by nathan
Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:08 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Is consciousness restricted to internal contacts?
Replies: 2
Views: 784

Re: Is consciousness restricted to internal contacts?

See MN 43: "Friend, what can be known with the purified intellect-consciousness divorced from the five [sense] faculties?" "Friend, with the purified intellect-consciousness divorced from the five faculties the dimension of the infinitude of space can be known [as] 'infinite space.' The dimension o...
by nathan
Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:37 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Is consciousness restricted to internal contacts?
Replies: 2
Views: 784

Is consciousness restricted to internal contacts?

Is cognition, mind contact or consciousness restricted to internal contacts? Why? Is eye consciousness limited to internal relationships such as the eye perceptions of the bodily eye or can cognition make more direct contacts beyond internal mind qualities and the body's sense perceptions? Is extern...
by nathan
Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:17 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Anattā
Replies: 53
Views: 7565

Re: Anattā

I very much appreciate this discussion. Thank you everyone. There are two things I would appreciate further clarified if possible. 1. Given that the impersonality of anatta is a universal constant, I don't understand why there would necessarily be any inconqruity between a conventional or conditiona...
by nathan
Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:52 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Consciousness without surface, without end
Replies: 8
Views: 2749

Re: Consciousness without surface, without end

Another alternative consideration may be suggested. Consider the noble ones described as touching, contacting or witnessing the deathless with the body. It might be suggested that consciousness is only present as in contact with conditional objects. In the absence of such contact there being no cons...
by nathan
Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:20 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Why there is no re-linking consciousness
Replies: 55
Views: 6694

Re: Why there is no re-linking consciousness

Element, everyone; You may find it challenging to consider the significant challenges to all functionalist theories of any kind for fully and accurately describing the nature of and interrelationships between what is elsewhere referred to as mentality/materiality or the mind/body. Nama has limited u...
by nathan
Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:08 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hi from Nathan
Replies: 10
Views: 1630

Re: Hi from Nathan

Hi, and thanks again. It's been good to find out where the retreat is that everyone went on. :jumping: Genkaku, I didn't realize that I came across as so utilitarian. I'll have to work on that. :smile: Nice to see you Genkaku. Hope we all benefit, kudos to all the excellent mods who have taken this ...
by nathan
Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:03 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hi from Nathan
Replies: 10
Views: 1630

Re: Hi from Nathan

Thank you for the warm welcome, you guys will provide much here that is needed in any beneficial forum. Every attempt to sincerely listen and express is an opportunity to discover how to do so more skillfully and there is always so much to learn about that! All the best with this new baby. :hug:
by nathan
Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:26 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hi from Nathan
Replies: 10
Views: 1630

Hi from Nathan

Hi folks, I recognize some user names and photos from elsewhere. Looks like a vital and growing community, may it be so, may many benefit and may well being and happiness prevail. :twothumbsup: