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by legolas
Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:24 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Before Nirvana Extremely painfull sensations.
Replies: 78
Views: 15022

Re: Before Nirvana Extremely painfull sensations.

mikenz66 wrote:
legolas wrote:
robertk wrote:Where are the flickering eyelids?
What are "flickering eyelids"?
See http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7278" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:anjali:
Mike
Sorry, I still don't get it. Am I being a bit slow to get a joke?
by legolas
Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Before Nirvana Extremely painfull sensations.
Replies: 78
Views: 15022

Re: Before Nirvana Extremely painfull sensations.

robertk wrote:Where are the flickering eyelids?
What are "flickering eyelids"?
by legolas
Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:40 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Before Nirvana Extremely painfull sensations.
Replies: 78
Views: 15022

Re: Before Nirvana Extremely painfull sensations.

Hi Legolas, I'm no expert in attaining nibbana, but it seems to me a reasonable assumption that such accounts are based on practical experience. As you say, in meditation pain often arises. Where does the link say it is necessary , or that the meditator should seek it out by poking herself/himself ...
by legolas
Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:52 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Before Nirvana Extremely painfull sensations.
Replies: 78
Views: 15022

Re: Before Nirvana Extremely painfull sensations.

Hi, It seems a strange way to nibbana. At different stages it describes the body & mind becoming extremely fatigued. The Buddha explicitly states that nibbana cannot be reached when the body is fatigued. A lot of the nanas seem to describe a tantric/kundalini/chakra approach, which is heavily ce...
by legolas
Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:00 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better
Replies: 96
Views: 28511

Re: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

I think there is doubt about the word "realities" so is "dhammas" less problematic? I personally prefer dhammas. And I ask again, is there any difference between seeing-consciousness and form as described for example in SN35 on the ayatanas and seeing consciousness and visible o...
by legolas
Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:32 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better
Replies: 96
Views: 28511

Re: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

a) Understanding realities - I dont get b) Doing something unnatural - I dont understand c) Ditto The Buddha gave a progressive teaching to Suppabuddha who gave full attention to the words of the Buddha. Suppabuddha's mind contemplated the benefit of virtue/generosity -the bliss of heaven - the dan...
by legolas
Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:21 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better
Replies: 96
Views: 28511

Re: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

One example might be the technique of "no technique", where "developing understanding of realities" au natural looks to the abhidhamma for its validation. As in the Sujin Boriharnwanaket "method." Ok, so earlier when you mentioned about vipassana techniques, you meant ...
by legolas
Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:29 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better
Replies: 96
Views: 28511

Re: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

tiltbillings wrote:
legolas wrote:One example might be the technique of "no technique", where "developing understanding of realities" au natural looks to the abhidhamma for its validation.
As in the Sujin Boriharnwanaket "method."
Absolutely.
by legolas
Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:29 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better
Replies: 96
Views: 28511

Re: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

One example might be the technique of "no technique", where "developing understanding of realities" au natural looks to the abhidhamma for its validation. Is that something like the example by Alex (earlier in this thread): about Suppabuddha attaining while listening to a Dhamma...
by legolas
Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:20 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2423
Views: 597129

Re: Is the result of Parinibbana Annihilation?

I think tilt and alex would make a great vaudeville act. It reminds me of "whose" on first(base) - no whats on first(base) etc. etc. etc.
by legolas
Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:58 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better
Replies: 96
Views: 28511

Re: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

One example might be the technique of "no technique", where "developing understanding of realities" au natural looks to the abhidhamma for its validation.
by legolas
Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:14 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better
Replies: 96
Views: 28511

Re: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

Apologies to Robert, my previous post does not make complete sense, I actually thought Peter was the original poster. It must be my age. Apologies to Peter as well, if he will accept an apology from a balding hair-splitter.
by legolas
Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:56 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better
Replies: 96
Views: 28511

Re: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

In all honesty much of this seems to me to be bald men discussing combs. Splitting hairs about states which probably no one involved has any experiential knowledge of. How wonderfully insightful. Pretty obvious actually. It requires no iddhis or depth. Clangingly obvious. Perhaps with all the hair ...
by legolas
Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:10 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better
Replies: 96
Views: 28511

Re: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

I do not deny that experiences that are in line with "nana knowledges" do occur when practicing certain types of meditation, my contention is whether these are within the Buddha's teachings. What are these forms of meditaion and which Commentary cites them? My understanding (and I am open...
by legolas
Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:04 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better
Replies: 96
Views: 28511

Re: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

PeterB wrote:In all honesty much of this seems to me to be bald men discussing combs.
Splitting hairs about states which probably no one involved has any experiential knowledge of.
How wonderfully insightful.