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by SamKR
Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:08 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

I don't care about what philosophies or sects say what and what are similar to mine. While I am saying that we should drop views and construing and then depend on direct knowledge why are you saying that it is a view that the Buddha did not teach (when to me the Buddha is teaching to drop all const...
by SamKR
Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:01 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

External reality been an illusion, saying logic should be thrown out the window, saying you can never know nothing for sure etc. I have never said logic should be thrown out of window. I am just saying that we should not fully depend upon it but depend upon direct knowledge. So, if you are are advo...
by SamKR
Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:36 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

Whatever I am trying to say in this thread is no solipsism . So, either I could not communicate well or you did not understand me. Even if it is solipsism (if solipsism is defined in a certain way), so what? If it is in alignment with the Buddha's teachings (assuming that definition is correct), the...
by SamKR
Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:23 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

So you're arguing for postmodernism / solipsism / philosophical skepticism ? Good for you, if you're not concerned with ever dropping the first fetter.Logic is the only light that leads us through the jungle of views... ...view that you're holding right now was created "in there" too so it has no v...
by SamKR
Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:08 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

One thing we definitely agree on is that it really really really seems like there is an external world out there. What I think you are missing is that it is impossible for the six sense media to prove or disprove the existence of an external world. Impossible. The idea that an external world exists...
by SamKR
Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:24 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

But there is then the question of how we interpret "in the seen, just the the seen". http://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=26690&hilit=bahiya+sutta "In the seen, just the seen" suggests that there is something to be seen. It's as if the subject has gone ( "no you there" ) but the object remai...
by SamKR
Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:41 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

I have not read much Mahayana stuff (like I did suttas) except some quotes and many articles here and there. Some of the stuff are true gems while many things in Mahayana sects seem pretty useless and absurd to me (no offence to Mahayanists, but that's just how I feel). So, what does emptiness exact...
by SamKR
Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:48 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

Do the suttas discuss the "emptiness of everything"? I thought it was a later idea, but I might be wrong. I don't care whether suttas use the exact word "emptiness of everything". :) By reading the suttas and doing some contemplation I notice that the Buddha is indeed pointing towards emptiness of ...
by SamKR
Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:34 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

Interesting point. I wonder if the Bahiya Sutta passage is relevant here, it seems to describe liberation from the assumption of "me" as a subject, the assumption of an "in here" as opposed to an "out there". But there is then the question of how we interpret "in the seen, just the the seen". http:...
by SamKR
Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:30 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

This view is based on suttas - my interpretation of suttas just like everyone has their own interpretations. Your interpretation might be that they teach basic common-sense view of external things. My opinion is that the Buddha did not teach a uniform teaching to everyone; he taught and talked abou...
by SamKR
Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:04 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

Sound is not a thing that dwells inside the conch-shell and comes out from time to time, but due to both, the conch-shell and the man that blows it, sound comes to arise: Just so, due to the presence of vitality, heat and consciousness, this body may execute the acts of going, standing, sitting and...
by SamKR
Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

I too am in favor of option 2. The "external world" exists, it has some sort of substance but what we get to experience is entirely phenomenological. Phenomenons that "appear" every second and get experienced by us are determined to an extent by this "external world" witch acts as a condition for t...
by SamKR
Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

... In of itself the eye as rūpa is a non-relational void. One might say that it "exists" in a non-sensual way, but such an existence would have no meaning, i.e. it would be outside the pathways the Buddha speaks of. To postulate the "existence" of such a non-relational whole would be an act of spe...
by SamKR
Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:08 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

I think it is impossible to know which view is correct....knowing this is out of range. If someone has found a way to know this I would like to hear it. chownah Its the same old arguements again and again. All conjecture, all construal. Impossible to know. If it was possible to know it would be kno...
by SamKR
Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:57 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phenomenology question - view about the world
Replies: 114
Views: 8494

Re: Phenomenology question - view about the world

Hi Sam, Personally I go for option (2) and assume something "out there". Sp when crossing a busy "road" I do make a point of avoiding moving "cars" and "buses". ;) Are you implying that not having a view about something "out there" means when crossing a road one would not avoid cars? Perhaps not. I...