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by beeblebrox
Fri May 16, 2014 11:43 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Life from what period
Replies: 108
Views: 19323

Re: Life from what period

From what seems to be my current understanding (when this is translated as "descent into the womb" and not "descent of the embryo"), it still doesn't seem to support Ven. Brahm's argument anymore in using the embryo as a frame of reference for the existence (or non-existence) of...
by beeblebrox
Thu May 15, 2014 4:10 pm
Forum: Pāli
Topic: The translation of Dhammapada Verse 97
Replies: 7
Views: 3138

Re: The translation of Dhammapada Verse 97

Assaddho akataññū ca, "Non-believer and no obligation," sandhicchedo ca yo naro; "cuts off connection with any man;" Hatāvakāso vantāso, "Killer of opportunities, who pukes vomit," sa ve uttamaporiso. "this one must be a great man." Check Ven. Pesala's link f...
by beeblebrox
Thu May 15, 2014 2:44 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Misunderstanding of sakaya-ditthi.
Replies: 74
Views: 19561

Re: Misunderstanding of sakaya-ditthi.

Hi Vinasp,

To me I think it means to "label" things as self, and then trying to take that as something which is self-evident. At stream entry, that belief and/or habit is dropped.

:anjali:
by beeblebrox
Thu May 15, 2014 2:10 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Life from what period
Replies: 108
Views: 19323

Re: Life from what period

Hi all,

There are people who are unable to feel pain. ("Congenital Insensitivity to Pain," article here; and "People Who Feel No Pain Can't Smell, Either," article here.) Does that mean there is no consciousness for them, overall?

:anjali:
by beeblebrox
Thu May 15, 2014 11:10 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Life from what period
Replies: 108
Views: 19323

Re: Life from what period

PS - it should also be apparent from this, why Ajahn Brahm disagrees with BB's translation of gabbhassa avakkanti as referring to the descent of the embryo, when the Vinaya discussion indicates that gabbha is simply womb. This means that the - assa ending carries a dative sense, ie descent into the...
by beeblebrox
Thu May 15, 2014 2:02 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Life from what period
Replies: 108
Views: 19323

Re: Life from what period

Except there does seem to be (to me) undertones of an anti-abortionist agenda rather than a purely scholarly interest. Hi Mr Man, I think that's unavoidable when a position is taken up. My main interest is in what would the consciousness entail, and what would namarupa entail, and how would they re...
by beeblebrox
Wed May 14, 2014 5:32 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Life from what period
Replies: 108
Views: 19323

Re: Life from what period

I think it is still anachronistic (i.e., not correct in its historical context) to try to use modern medical technology to determine what these terms could be referring to. (Namarupa, vedana, etc.) These terms were designated to match the observations, along with the knowledge, which were available ...
by beeblebrox
Tue May 13, 2014 7:40 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools
Replies: 34
Views: 11798

Re: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools

OK sorry I misunderstood your interpretation. So death is necesary for completion of nibbana, until then it would not be full/complete? So the ordinary nibbana depends on conditions to become parinibbana? It's not nibbana that becomes parinibbana, but the extinguishment of the five khandhas (which ...
by beeblebrox
Tue May 13, 2014 7:15 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools
Replies: 34
Views: 11798

Re: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools

Parinibbana is just the final extinguishment of the five khandas So you mean what is called Parinibbana does not really mean a kind of nibbana at all, since it is already attained before? Then why should it be (misleadingly, according to you) named pari-nibbana? Hi Arhat, It is mystifying to me how...
by beeblebrox
Tue May 13, 2014 7:01 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools
Replies: 34
Views: 11798

Re: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/ud/ud.8.03.than.html "Atthi bhikkave -- ajaata, abhuuta, akata, asankhata" 4 adjectives that qualify the same thing, and you are saying these adjectives do not describe a noun i.e. thing? That's strange. If you say nibbana is not a noun/thing, I ...
by beeblebrox
Tue May 13, 2014 6:29 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools
Replies: 34
Views: 11798

Re: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools

If a movement is possible from Samsara to Nibbana (imagining that it is the movement from a conditioned to an unconditioned state of being), why would the reverse also not be possible? Hi Arhat, I don't think the conditions move to non-condition... it's through their falling away that non-condition...
by beeblebrox
Tue May 13, 2014 2:50 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Life from what period
Replies: 108
Views: 19323

Re: Life from what period

Hi NoBSBuddhist, My only interest in here is in the way that this is being interpreted from the commentaries and what the Buddha said, as per the guideline of this particular forum. I do it to gain a better understanding for the rest of his teachings. I don't do it to get judgmental about what other...
by beeblebrox
Tue May 13, 2014 2:26 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Life from what period
Replies: 108
Views: 19323

Re: Life from what period

Hi all, It seems like there's an assumption that the "first consciousness arisen" refers to the embryo's consciousness... but I think it also could easily mean the first consciousness which arose that there was an embryo. During the Buddha's time, that could mean the awareness that the wom...
by beeblebrox
Mon May 12, 2014 8:08 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2423
Views: 597393

Re: Thanissaro's view of nibbana

The different views may also be relevant to Buddhist ecumenicalism, if such a thing can be said to exist. Thanissaro's view and the Thai Forest Tradition in general seem to bear some affinities with Zen and perhaps some Tibetan schools, whereas that might be less the case with proponents of the non...
by beeblebrox
Mon May 12, 2014 5:34 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Life from what period
Replies: 108
Views: 19323

Re: Life from what period

...as can tardigrades and bacteria . Luckiliy they aren't considered "life" from a Buddhist point of view, AFAIK. That is, one cannot be reborn as a micro-organism. This is a picture of tardigrade (aka waterbear, or moss piglet; article here ): http://www.nps.gov/common/uploads/teachers/a...