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- Fri May 16, 2014 11:43 am
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Life from what period
- Replies: 108
- Views: 19323
Re: Life from what period
From what seems to be my current understanding (when this is translated as "descent into the womb" and not "descent of the embryo"), it still doesn't seem to support Ven. Brahm's argument anymore in using the embryo as a frame of reference for the existence (or non-existence) of...
- Thu May 15, 2014 4:10 pm
- Forum: Pāli
- Topic: The translation of Dhammapada Verse 97
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3138
Re: The translation of Dhammapada Verse 97
Assaddho akataññū ca, "Non-believer and no obligation," sandhicchedo ca yo naro; "cuts off connection with any man;" Hatāvakāso vantāso, "Killer of opportunities, who pukes vomit," sa ve uttamaporiso. "this one must be a great man." Check Ven. Pesala's link f...
- Thu May 15, 2014 2:44 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: Misunderstanding of sakaya-ditthi.
- Replies: 74
- Views: 19561
Re: Misunderstanding of sakaya-ditthi.
Hi Vinasp,
To me I think it means to "label" things as self, and then trying to take that as something which is self-evident. At stream entry, that belief and/or habit is dropped.
To me I think it means to "label" things as self, and then trying to take that as something which is self-evident. At stream entry, that belief and/or habit is dropped.
- Thu May 15, 2014 2:10 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Life from what period
- Replies: 108
- Views: 19323
- Thu May 15, 2014 11:10 am
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Life from what period
- Replies: 108
- Views: 19323
Re: Life from what period
PS - it should also be apparent from this, why Ajahn Brahm disagrees with BB's translation of gabbhassa avakkanti as referring to the descent of the embryo, when the Vinaya discussion indicates that gabbha is simply womb. This means that the - assa ending carries a dative sense, ie descent into the...
- Thu May 15, 2014 2:02 am
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Life from what period
- Replies: 108
- Views: 19323
Re: Life from what period
Except there does seem to be (to me) undertones of an anti-abortionist agenda rather than a purely scholarly interest. Hi Mr Man, I think that's unavoidable when a position is taken up. My main interest is in what would the consciousness entail, and what would namarupa entail, and how would they re...
- Wed May 14, 2014 5:32 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Life from what period
- Replies: 108
- Views: 19323
Re: Life from what period
I think it is still anachronistic (i.e., not correct in its historical context) to try to use modern medical technology to determine what these terms could be referring to. (Namarupa, vedana, etc.) These terms were designated to match the observations, along with the knowledge, which were available ...
- Tue May 13, 2014 7:40 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools
- Replies: 34
- Views: 11798
Re: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools
OK sorry I misunderstood your interpretation. So death is necesary for completion of nibbana, until then it would not be full/complete? So the ordinary nibbana depends on conditions to become parinibbana? It's not nibbana that becomes parinibbana, but the extinguishment of the five khandhas (which ...
- Tue May 13, 2014 7:15 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools
- Replies: 34
- Views: 11798
Re: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools
Parinibbana is just the final extinguishment of the five khandas So you mean what is called Parinibbana does not really mean a kind of nibbana at all, since it is already attained before? Then why should it be (misleadingly, according to you) named pari-nibbana? Hi Arhat, It is mystifying to me how...
- Tue May 13, 2014 7:01 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools
- Replies: 34
- Views: 11798
Re: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/ud/ud.8.03.than.html "Atthi bhikkave -- ajaata, abhuuta, akata, asankhata" 4 adjectives that qualify the same thing, and you are saying these adjectives do not describe a noun i.e. thing? That's strange. If you say nibbana is not a noun/thing, I ...
- Tue May 13, 2014 6:29 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools
- Replies: 34
- Views: 11798
Re: Asankhata apart from nibbana in early buddhist schools
If a movement is possible from Samsara to Nibbana (imagining that it is the movement from a conditioned to an unconditioned state of being), why would the reverse also not be possible? Hi Arhat, I don't think the conditions move to non-condition... it's through their falling away that non-condition...
- Tue May 13, 2014 2:50 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Life from what period
- Replies: 108
- Views: 19323
Re: Life from what period
Hi NoBSBuddhist, My only interest in here is in the way that this is being interpreted from the commentaries and what the Buddha said, as per the guideline of this particular forum. I do it to gain a better understanding for the rest of his teachings. I don't do it to get judgmental about what other...
- Tue May 13, 2014 2:26 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Life from what period
- Replies: 108
- Views: 19323
Re: Life from what period
Hi all, It seems like there's an assumption that the "first consciousness arisen" refers to the embryo's consciousness... but I think it also could easily mean the first consciousness which arose that there was an embryo. During the Buddha's time, that could mean the awareness that the wom...
- Mon May 12, 2014 8:08 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
- Replies: 2423
- Views: 597393
Re: Thanissaro's view of nibbana
The different views may also be relevant to Buddhist ecumenicalism, if such a thing can be said to exist. Thanissaro's view and the Thai Forest Tradition in general seem to bear some affinities with Zen and perhaps some Tibetan schools, whereas that might be less the case with proponents of the non...
- Mon May 12, 2014 5:34 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Life from what period
- Replies: 108
- Views: 19323
Re: Life from what period
...as can tardigrades and bacteria . Luckiliy they aren't considered "life" from a Buddhist point of view, AFAIK. That is, one cannot be reborn as a micro-organism. This is a picture of tardigrade (aka waterbear, or moss piglet; article here ): http://www.nps.gov/common/uploads/teachers/a...