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by dhamma follower
Wed May 01, 2013 2:39 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1255
Views: 291107

Re: The causes for wisdom

However, right at the beginning, there should be the clear understanding that it is not "a self" who does the studying, but it is a dhamma which is conditioned by previous hearing and considering which, at some particular point arises and is aware. If this understanding is not firm, there...
by dhamma follower
Wed May 01, 2013 2:33 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1255
Views: 291107

Re: The causes for wisdom

If we don't believe that hearing the Dhamma and wise considering alone can condition direct understanding later, does that mean we don't really trust the Buddha's words and the power of his teaching ? The thing is what you mean by "hearing the Dhamma and wise considering" seems not necess...
by dhamma follower
Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:14 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1255
Views: 291107

Re: The causes for wisdom

The title of this thread is Causes for wisdom Suttas have already been cited showing that the prime causes for wisdom are hearing and contemplation of the Dhamma. This sutta adds to the discussion by showing that listening to the Dhamma leads to the attainment of nibbana. :D It underlines the cruci...
by dhamma follower
Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:35 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1255
Views: 291107

Re: The causes for wisdom

as i said earlier in this thread: Firstly let us be upfront and honest and admit, especially to ourselves, that delusion and conceit are almost omnipresent. Then we can take a breath and see that this Dhamma is so profound that is probable that if we feel we are having frequent moments of sati-samp...
by dhamma follower
Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1255
Views: 291107

Re: The causes for wisdom

Dear PB, There is such a thing as wrong sati What is the characteristic of wrong sati? Can you show where there is the description of wrong sati? "And who is the individual who goes against the flow? There is the case where an individual doesn't indulge in sensual passions and doesn't do evil d...
by dhamma follower
Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:37 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1255
Views: 291107

Re: The causes for wisdom

Its like I said above. The concepts such as mother and father are the shadow of the actual paramatttha dhammas. But when you think of your mother or father it is not your mother or father. It is a concept. What distinguishes paramattha dhammas that make up a man and paramattha dhammas that make up ...
by dhamma follower
Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:26 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1255
Views: 291107

Re: The causes for wisdom

Dear Tilt and Kirck5a, I do not know why it is that you Sujin followers need to be told repeatedly that no one here is suggesting right effort is not some sort of unconditioned thing. Because some repeatedly quote passage where the Buddha says "one should make an effort" whenever we say ri...
by dhamma follower
Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:56 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1255
Views: 291107

Re: The causes for wisdom

Let's underline this part again: one makes an exertion You guys are totally confused about the difference between putting effort into the practice as described by the Buddha, which is right effort, and self-view. You conflate effort with self-view and greed. "And what, monks, is right effort? ...
by dhamma follower
Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:24 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1255
Views: 291107

Re: The causes for wisdom

Greeting Kirk5a, [ But the real 'change' is not anything outward it is purely the arising of understanding. And this type of understanding, as the suttas say, depends on hearing Dhamma. There is the case where, when conviction has arisen, one visits [a teacher]. Having visited, one grows close. Havi...
by dhamma follower
Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:13 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1255
Views: 291107

Re: The causes for wisdom

Dear PB, (and there are many more suttas that explain the wholesome and the unwholesome, the skillful and the unskillful. And they are rather recognizable if you ask me. If you don't think you can recognize them then maybe it's because the hindrance of doubt/uncertainty is overwhelming you. To know ...
by dhamma follower
Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:36 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1255
Views: 291107

Re: The causes for wisdom

Greetings DF, (3) We today, not getting enlightened upon hearing a sutta, short or long, having even no clear understanding of what is wholesome and what is unwholesome, let alone what is a dhamma, are considered low in wisdom has not been taught by the Buddha? No... that wasn't taught by the Buddh...
by dhamma follower
Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:52 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is the benefit of learning Abhidhamma
Replies: 25
Views: 8490

Re: What is the benefit of learning Abhidhamma

When buddha refer to his teaching, he call it dhamma vinaya. His disciples attain arahat, ...sotapatti doesn't need abhidhamma too (They just listen,and practice according to the sutta,). And abhidhamma is very difficult to understand. And I find it no benefit in apply into practice. Because I hear...
by dhamma follower
Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:20 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1255
Views: 291107

Re: The causes for wisdom

Greetings DF, the main point made in the post was about our being hearers only, and that we have to rely on his words to develop understanding, and that we actually have a very low level of wisdom. If you wish, you might directly address those points. I thought that's precisely what I addressed. i....
by dhamma follower
Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:56 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1255
Views: 291107

Re: The causes for wisdom

Dear Retro, I don't think your comment below is fair. While you might not like the details about the Boddhisatta' lives, which nonetheless are recorded in the Buddhavamsa as well as the commentary to the Vinaya - Cariyapitaka, the main point made in the post was about our being hearers only, and tha...
by dhamma follower
Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:14 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The causes for wisdom
Replies: 1255
Views: 291107

Re: The causes for wisdom

It may have been exceedingly exceptional but the Buddha awakened. He had no one to show him the way. Greeting Prasadachitta, Indeed, it is exceedingly exceptional, that's why he is called samma sambuddha - the one who has become enlightened without a teacher. You might know that it is by virtue of ...