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by daverupa
Sat May 14, 2016 1:27 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Where are the post-annihilationist monastics?
Replies: 65
Views: 15889

Re: Where are the post-annihilationist monastics?

An approach to the Dhamma for skeptics & this-life-only folk, in general; people who simply can't be bothered to accept ancient cosmologies, psychic powers, flying monks, and who dismiss the Four Truths as a result.
by daverupa
Fri May 13, 2016 10:30 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Where are the post-annihilationist monastics?
Replies: 65
Views: 15889

Re: Where are the post-annihilationist monastics?

To them, Buddhist teachings are for the purpose of making one's worldly life better. Obviously that misapprehends the Dhamma; these people are better off just calling their activity 'eclectic meditation', since there is no reference to the Four Truths in such a case. And not every modern annihilati...
by daverupa
Fri May 13, 2016 10:20 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Where are the post-annihilationist monastics?
Replies: 65
Views: 15889

Re: Where are the post-annihilationist monastics?

The weight of the evidence seems to indicate that an annihilationist wanderer would not need (nor be told) to accept rebirth in order to practice, even up to non-return.

So that's interesting. Maybe some secular folk would benefit from this information?
by daverupa
Fri May 13, 2016 7:41 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: a preliminary timeline
Replies: 18
Views: 7963

Re: a preliminary timeline

Without refernces it is difficult to verify or confirm the dates/events. References are wafting loose throughout academia & the internet, which isn't so very difficult to peruse; this is more of a summary than an argument. :shrug: A lot of the work comes from Schopen, Analayo, Sujato, Dutt, Bro...
by daverupa
Fri May 13, 2016 5:05 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Easier translations of Visuddhimagga?
Replies: 8
Views: 2472

Re: Easier translations of Visuddhimagga?

Kaneki wrote:So I was very excited to find there is a systematized step by step process of cultivating the path factors
This is in the Suttas too, called the 'Gradual Path'.
by daverupa
Fri May 13, 2016 3:56 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why Buddha did not say that the world is round?
Replies: 234
Views: 50962

Re: Why Buddha did not say that the world is round?

Without the atmosphere, the water would turn to ice. Space is really cold... ...but on the side facing the sun, water would evaporate due to a lack of convection. :stirthepot: Why oh why did the Buddha not teach us about physics and astronomy? Alack! I am ruined, what was once set upright is overtu...
by daverupa
Fri May 13, 2016 3:48 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: a preliminary timeline
Replies: 18
Views: 7963

a preliminary timeline

Some quick thoughts on a timeline that would describe some important developments, and otherwise set up a framework for understanding the shapes of Early Buddhism. I'll edit this for accuracy & detail, over time. --- ca. 455-400 BCE Buddha's teaching career relic veneration at cetiyas preliminar...
by daverupa
Fri May 13, 2016 3:16 pm
Forum: Vipassanā / Satipaṭṭhāna Bhāvana
Topic: material and immaterial jhanas in vipassana meditation compare to samatha and scheme
Replies: 12
Views: 3986

Re: material and immaterial jhanas in vipassana meditation compare to samatha and scheme

It seems to me that samatha is a method of jhana in a basic way. Vipassana is the Buddhist approach to such samatha, yoking it to the Path. Other teachings about jhana do other things, heading in other directions.
by daverupa
Fri May 13, 2016 3:06 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Where are the post-annihilationist monastics?
Replies: 65
Views: 15889

Re: Where are the post-annihilationist monastics?

“Bhikkhus, of the speculative views held by outsiders, this is the foremost, namely: ‘I might not be and it might not be mine; I shall not be, and it will not be mine.’ And what, bhikkhus, is right view that is affected by the taints, partaking of merit, ripening in the acquisitions? ‘There is what...
by daverupa
Thu May 12, 2016 3:21 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Timeless model of Paṭiccasamuppāda
Replies: 403
Views: 77777

Re: Timeless model of Paṭiccasamuppāda

...The present reality of anything before me -- be it a cow or something as complex and as general as the "world" -- rests on the a posteriori , but its depth and complexity lies in the a priori . There is no such thing as a purely synthetic a posteriori judgment , the a priori is implica...
by daverupa
Wed May 11, 2016 11:06 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Stream Entry as a "lightning flash" experience?
Replies: 22
Views: 6786

Re: Stream Entry as a "lightning flash" experience?

Hi Dave, I'm having difficulty understanding this. Par for the course, when I write. Let's see here. Can you clarify which are the second group of four? Here is the first group; these things lead to stream-entry: Association with people of integrity Listening to the true Dhamma Appropriate attentio...
by daverupa
Wed May 11, 2016 7:52 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Stream Entry as a "lightning flash" experience?
Replies: 22
Views: 6786

Re: Stream Entry as a "lightning flash" experience?

mikenz66 wrote:I think he is referring to the four thing in the previous sutta, but it is not completely clear to me:
There are 8 factors. Four of them are the ones that lead to stream-entry; the other four are factors of a stream-entrant.

So, one set of four leads to the other set of four.
by daverupa
Wed May 04, 2016 7:20 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Where are the post-annihilationist monastics?
Replies: 65
Views: 15889

Re: Where are the post-annihilationist monastics?

Obviously I'm unable to communicate well & unable to think clearly. f*** it.
by daverupa
Wed May 04, 2016 2:51 pm
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Coffee, Chocolate and the 5th Precept
Replies: 83
Views: 18666

Re: Coffee, Chocolate and the 5th Precept

... There's tabacco in your Wikipedia graph, right next to amphetamines. And, tobacco isn't against the precept. Notice that "heedlessness" isn't on that graph anywhere. The point is that the term psychoactive - which you've been focused on - is too broad. A bit of beer doesn't cause heed...
by daverupa
Wed May 04, 2016 9:41 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Coffee, Chocolate and the 5th Precept
Replies: 83
Views: 18666

Re: Coffee, Chocolate and the 5th Precept

:alien: Well, sorry to bother y'all. Saying someone is on a crusade, presenting irrational and absurd information and then responding with a cartoon emoticon is so very good argumentation. If you are going to direct near-offensive comments at someone and then leave, why post at all for maybe no oth...