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by retrofuturist
Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:30 pm
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Ajahn Martin is Despondent
Replies: 58
Views: 3331

Re: Ajahn Martin is Despondent

Greetings Sarath,
SarathW wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:09 pm However, there is a Sutta a monk who left Buddha and went to the forest at the wrong time to do so.
I think from memory that was because he wasn't yet adequately skilled in mental cultivation. Unlikely to be the case here.

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:35 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: There is nothing there, without substance
Replies: 460
Views: 10242

Re: There is nothing there, without substance

Greetings Peter,

You are non-sequitur and ridiculous.

Please try harder.

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:29 am
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: There is nothing there, without substance
Replies: 460
Views: 10242

Re: There is nothing there, without substance

Greetings Peter,

What you experience and what you touch are not one and the same thing.

Your experience is your experience.

The thing touched is the thing touched.

Why do you conflate the two?

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:10 am
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Ajahn Martin is Despondent
Replies: 58
Views: 3331

Re: Ajahn Martin is Despondent

Greetings, I respect what he's doing personally, as far as his own path goes, and have outlined my reasons for that above. I cannot help but wonder though if his devotion is too tightly attached to his teacher, their lineage and their legacy. I say this because if I ordained and became a bhikkhu, I ...
by retrofuturist
Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:35 am
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Ajahn Martin is Despondent
Replies: 58
Views: 3331

Re: Ajahn Martin is Despondent

Greetings Apapurati, Wise words. After listening again and some reflection on this situation, the desires and complaints, I can see what has happened to Ajahn Martin. :( I got the sense that the length of his litany of "complaints" had less to do with him needing to vent them (which would ...
by retrofuturist
Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:42 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Meditation Instructions
Replies: 6
Views: 247

Re: Meditation Instructions

Greetings appamaada , It's a great relief that I've spent what seems like barely any time with traditional Abhidhamma. Just brief run-ins with people into Goenka and Mahasi-type stuff, as well as breath-focusing. :D In that context, one of Nanavira Thera's footnotes in the Preface to Notes On Dhamma...
by retrofuturist
Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:10 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Meditation Instructions
Replies: 6
Views: 247

Re: Meditation Instructions

Greetings appamaada, It's a very interesting perspective you're taking here. It's my contention that understanding how any two components of paticcasamuppada relate to each other is enough to clarify the principle of idappaccayata (refer to MN 9 for this -- right view can be understood as seeing the...
by retrofuturist
Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:54 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Meditation Instructions
Replies: 6
Views: 247

Re: Meditation Instructions

Greetings, It's this phenomenon, craving, that we want to watch out for. True to a point, and probably more than sufficient when you're not in formal meditation, but if you've already gotten to "tanha", then how much of paticcasamuppada has already slipped you by without due attention and ...
by retrofuturist
Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:37 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mindfulness is a technique?
Replies: 116
Views: 3299

Re: Mindfulness is a technique?

Greetings, The following Sutta, in its entirely seems relevant, so I'm going to share it (with a bit of highlighting for emphasis). At Savatthi. There the Blessed One said, "I tell you, monks: It is for one who knows & sees that there is the ending of the effluents. For one who knows what &...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:58 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which disagreements on practice and doctrine are actually aDhammic?
Replies: 41
Views: 1681

Re: Which disagreements on practice and doctrine are actually aDhammic?

Greetings Mike, Interesting topic. Is it the case that certain approaches or interpretations are aDhammic, or are participants just arguing about their preferred interpretation of the suttas (or other texts) and approach to practice? Personally, I think "aDhammic" is probably too tight a l...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:31 pm
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Ajahn Martin is Despondent
Replies: 58
Views: 3331

Re: Ajahn Martin is Despondent

Greetings Mystik,

It's a good point. I think a lot of people gravitate towards the Dhamma as a means of hiding from past trauma, and I don't think that's restricted to monks either.

Metta,
Paul. :)
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mindfulness is a technique?
Replies: 116
Views: 3299

Re: Mindfulness is a technique?

Greetings Sam, I would of course prefer the assessment to be against the standards of the Dhamma, but in the absence of Right View I would consider rejoicing justified if a practice alleviated suffering, helped people be nicer to others, or moved them towards an establishment of Right View . If by t...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:43 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Idappaccayatā
Replies: 6
Views: 323

Re: Idappaccayatā

Greetings Robert, Thus this specific conditionality dependent origination is deep and difficult to understand, even intellectually. Yet, so the Pali says, it is not an impossible task. It wouldn't want to be, otherwise the Buddha is a liar and his Dhamma is worldly. Be sure to explain how Abhidhamma...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:09 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mindfulness is a technique?
Replies: 116
Views: 3299

Re: Mindfulness is a technique?

Greetings Sam, And if they fare well, then that would be a matter for rejoicing, wouldn't it? Assessed against the Dhamma, or assessed against their own standards (e.g. "feels good", "relaxing", "a good session")? If Right View is not established, then what's the practi...
by retrofuturist
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:11 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Idappaccayatā
Replies: 6
Views: 323

Idappaccayatā

split from https://www.dhammawheel.com/mcp.php?action=split&f=13&i=main&mode=topic_view&start=0&t=46750 Greetings Robert, Greetings Robert, Well it says "rise and fall" . And? There's no idappaccayatā in recognising that phenomena arise and pass away. Metta, Paul. :) W...