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by Modus.Ponens
Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:11 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")
Replies: 247
Views: 15998

Re: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")

... The Vimuttimagga also states that the 5 senses are not experienced whilst in Jhāna. The Vimuttimagga is actually closer to the Visuddhimagga than most people think. It certainly follows the Abhidhamma and commentaries in much the same way. In the commentaries and the Visuddhimagga the bath powd...
by Modus.Ponens
Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:58 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")
Replies: 247
Views: 15998

Re: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")

Your students/readers are quite vocal, in saying things like, that every single person’s understanding of jhāna—lay or monastic, from modern times, all the way to 2564 years in the past—is wrong . Everyone wrong… except you and Bhante Vimalaramsi (and by extension, them). They have many similaritie...
by Modus.Ponens
Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:55 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")
Replies: 247
Views: 15998

Re: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")

After giving Leigh's teachings a little thought I began to wonder if his teaching isn't a 'liter' version of the Visuddhimagga brain freeze. It's still not the jhana as described in the suttas but whereas the Visuddhimagga invents fairy light nimittas to absorb into and zone out... Leigh uses physi...
by Modus.Ponens
Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:01 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")
Replies: 247
Views: 15998

Re: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")

I didn't. You did: is not what the Visuddhimagga says are the jhanas. That thread also has in its beginning a link to a previous topic that makes a very strong case that the original jhanas are the "soft" jhanas. Why is it for me to find supporting evidence for your claim? The Visuddhimag...
by Modus.Ponens
Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:48 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")
Replies: 247
Views: 15998

Re: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")

When we analyse the suttas the argument for Jhana lite quickly unravels, as indeed it does when we analyse some of their fallacious arguments. That they continue to make the argument doesn’t mean much. Even today the flat earthers go on making their arguments. If i were being charitable I would say...
by Modus.Ponens
Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:45 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")
Replies: 247
Views: 15998

Re: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")

When we analyse the suttas the argument for Jhana lite quickly unravels, as indeed it does when we analyse some of their fallacious arguments. That they continue to make the argument doesn’t mean much. Even today the flat earthers go on making their arguments. If i were being charitable I would say...
by Modus.Ponens
Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:35 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")
Replies: 247
Views: 15998

Re: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")

You should read the great jhana debate thread. There is ample evidence in the suttas that jhana in early Buddhism is not what the Visuddhimagga says are the jhanas. In fact, at some point here in the forum, the "hard" jhanas were called the visuddhimagga jhanas and "soft" jhanas...
by Modus.Ponens
Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:37 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")
Replies: 247
Views: 15998

Re: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")

… When we analyse the suttas the argument for Jhana lite quickly unravels, as indeed it does when we analyse some of their fallacious arguments. That they continue to make the argument doesn’t mean much. Even today the flat earthers go on making their arguments. If i were being charitable I would s...
by Modus.Ponens
Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:41 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")
Replies: 247
Views: 15998

Re: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")

1. is debatable (as per the Great Jhana Debate thread). 2. is not a correct interpretation of what Leigh Brasington said. What he' saying is that if you want to attain "hard" jhana, you have to spend a lot more time in access concentration before deciding to go into 1st jhana. The longer ...
by Modus.Ponens
Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:55 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")
Replies: 247
Views: 15998

Re: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")

This quote is key. And it should not be underestimated. Definitely . Leigh literally says himself that: 1. "Jhāna-lite" is different from jhāna described in the Suttas and practiced/taught by the Buddha. AND most importantly, that... 2. "Jhāna-lite" is access-concentration (upac...
by Modus.Ponens
Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:58 pm
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")
Replies: 247
Views: 15998

Re: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")

Being aware of unwholesome states of mind is much more important than focusing on your nose until you feel tingling feelings in your palms. Yeah maybe you're indirectly preventing unwholesome thoughts and therefore getting some pamojja or piti, but you don't actually understand why that is happenin...
by Modus.Ponens
Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:15 am
Forum: Samatha Bhāvana
Topic: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")
Replies: 247
Views: 15998

Re: Leigh Brasington and "Jhana-Lite" (Why there is no such thing as "jhāna-lite")

You may find this interesting: https://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?p=527148#p527148 Thanks for that. Leigh Brasington: One thing I’ve discovered along the way is that the level of concentration that I get to on a ten-day course or a month-long course or that my students get to is probably not...
by Modus.Ponens
Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:44 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Believing in the existence of jhana state
Replies: 47
Views: 1091

Re: Believing in the existence of jhana state

Not quite. Jhana will happen regardless of your belief in its existence. It's a matter of having motivation to persist with the practice long enough to see the fruits for yourself. Could you persist in your search for something that you believe doesn't even exist? Alternatively, if you're on the fe...
by Modus.Ponens
Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:31 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Believing in the existence of jhana state
Replies: 47
Views: 1091

Re: Believing in the existence of jhana state

If you want to find out if it's real (and it is) you have to take a temporary leap of faith to persist long enough until you verify it for yourself. If you don't think you can dedicate enough time to a daily practice, think about doing a retreat. Perhaps a metta retreat, if you can find it. If you ...
by Modus.Ponens
Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:07 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Believing in the existence of jhana state
Replies: 47
Views: 1091

Re: Believing in the existence of jhana state

How do we prove the existence of jhana state ? But why do we want to bother at all ? Recently i have been ponder on many thing , i became sceptical . I have not attain the so called jhana state :roll: , then to be neutral , i am not suppose to take a stand to believe . If i hold the view there is s...