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by mikenz66
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:33 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: How to deal with ignorant brutes in a discussion
Replies: 68
Views: 1425

Re: How to deal with ignorant brutes in a discussion

Polar Bear wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:23 am
A rare word to use, ...
Perhaps the term winging is more popular down here with the penguins than up in the north with the bears... :tongue:

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Mike
by mikenz66
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:28 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Nibbana experienced at mind-sense base... NOT
Replies: 55
Views: 692

Re: Is Nibbana experienced at mind-sense base? Now that would be heresy

... Since that book is a collection of sutta passages, you might find it helpful. That chapter, in fact, discusses such suttas as: ... I am just not at all a fan of Ven. Amaro and i am by default reserved against TFT and stuff coming out Amaravati. Actually, it was written by the two authors, Ajahn...
by mikenz66
Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:36 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Nibbana experienced at mind-sense base... NOT
Replies: 55
Views: 692

Re: Is Nibbana experienced at mind-sense base?

I think the eightfold path referring to the cessation the six sense spheres is referring to nibbana without remainder of fuel. And I’m just gonna chuck a bunch of sutta quotes at you to suggest my point. ... Yes you got it. However there is another meaning for Nibbana as Deathless. Where that same ...
by mikenz66
Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:42 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Nibbana experienced at mind-sense base... NOT
Replies: 55
Views: 692

Re: Nibbana experienced at mind-sense base... NOT

... Further to The Island, it's interesting to contrast the Amaro/Passano comments towards the end of Chapter 7, P129 of the PDF: When one reflects on the language the Buddha uses to express this principle of merging with the Deathless and meshes it with his statements about the All, one can see th...
by mikenz66
Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:27 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Nibbana experienced at mind-sense base... NOT
Replies: 55
Views: 692

Re: Is Nibbana experienced at mind-sense base? Now that would be heresy

Hi rightviewftw, Its possible that having a look at chapter 7 "Attending to the Deathless" in the book "The Island - An Anthology of the Buddha's Teachings on Nibbanna" by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro might be helpful. https://www.abhayagiri.org/books/451-the-island With kind regards, Aloka :anjal...
by mikenz66
Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:22 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9
Replies: 102
Views: 1478

Re: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9

What commentary are you citing there friend? It seems to contradict sutta pitaka. Previously, I pasted the AN 10:58 Cy. text from the Android Tipitaka app, but have now found this link on the Chattha Sangāyana site http://tipitaka.org/romn/cscd/s0404a.att20.xml If you have it, please post a link fo...
by mikenz66
Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:12 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9
Replies: 102
Views: 1478

Re: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9

... Okay, with little or no knowledge of Pali, you have deemed that two eminent Pali scholar-translators, Vens Bodhi & Sujāto have translated this term incorrectly... Friend, do you also think that Thanissaro has no pali knowledge, Ven. Nyanananda has no pali knowledge and Piya Tan has no pali know...
by mikenz66
Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:48 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9
Replies: 102
Views: 1478

Re: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9

rightviewftw wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:56 am
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Thanks for finding that.

Here's a link to the PDF on Piya Tan's new site: http://www.themindingcentre.org/dharmaf ... 3-piya.pdf
Kiṁ Mūlaka Sutta
The Discourse on “What is the Root?” | A 8.83/4:338
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Mike
by mikenz66
Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:58 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9
Replies: 102
Views: 1478

Re: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9

rightviewftw wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:42 pm
In this way the system itself can be understood to be unchanging while the states of the system are changing, therefore one can say that the changing gains a footing in the unchanging. ...
OK, thanks for explaining your model!

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Mike
by mikenz66
Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:23 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9
Replies: 102
Views: 1478

Re: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9

OK, but can you explain in your own words what Ven Thanissaro's translation means? As I said, I cannot understand it, apart from in terms of the simile in his footnote, so I'm not sure why you find it a preferable translation to the the translations of other translators.

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Mike
by mikenz66
Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:07 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9
Replies: 102
Views: 1478

Re: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9

That (at least your first sentence) is essentially how I understand the other translations. I have no idea how to understand Ven Thanissaro's translation, other than via the simile that he gives in his footnote. Perhaps we are simply understanding the English in these translations differently. :hear...
by mikenz66
Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:35 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9
Replies: 102
Views: 1478

Re: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9

I have already addressed that his own personal interpretation presented in his note to AN10.58 finds little support given that he claims it to be associated with non-return and his own personal views on the Non-made are of relatively little interest here. But the simile given in his note seems to b...
by mikenz66
Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:14 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9
Replies: 102
Views: 1478

Re: The real meaning of AN10.58 enumeration #9

Now if AN10.58 is taken to be referring to Aggregates they definitely do not plunge into the Deathless because the 8FNP leads to cessation of aggregates and by means of cessation the 3rd Noble Truth is realized and that which ceases does not plunge into anything. It is extremely unlikely imo that t...
by mikenz66
Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:27 pm
Forum: Discovering Theravāda
Topic: Jhanas and Nirvana
Replies: 15
Views: 458

Re: Jhanas and Nirvana

rightviewftw wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:42 pm
budo wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:13 am
The jhanas are required for anything above sotapanna.
Hi Sutta support for this friend?
There is an extensive analysis here: https://www.dhammatalks.net/Books10/Bhi ... ple%20.htm

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Mike
by mikenz66
Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:05 am
Forum: Study Group
Topic: SN 20.6 Dhanuggaha Sutta. The Archers.
Replies: 4
Views: 253

Re: SN 20.6 Dhanuggaha Sutta. The Archers.

Here are some related suttas suggested by Thanissaro Bhikkhu: https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/SN/SN20_6.html

SN2.19; AN4.113; AN5.78; AN6.19; AN6.20; AN7.74 (7.70); AN10.15; Iti23; Snp4.6

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Mike