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by ground
Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:27 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Problems with no-self
Replies: 90
Views: 8795

Re: Problems with no-self

For example: Why can't someone postulate: 1) Self that is impermanent ( born 1950, died at 2030 for example )? ... What am I? What does it take for the sense of "I" to appear in my mind? Does this sense feel permanent? Can I rightly postulate that "I am impermanent"? To perceive "I am ..." it takes...
by ground
Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:56 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Problems with no-self
Replies: 90
Views: 8795

Re: Problems with no-self

Wow. :shock: I can't believe it. I used to believe in no-self, but suddenly arguments for it lost their convincing power. :cry: So you believed that it is a matter of arguments? When some extraordinary thing is postulated, it better be well justified. But it is not about ideas but experiences. If y...
by ground
Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:13 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: What motivates Arahant?
Replies: 78
Views: 7763

Re: What motivates Arahant?

binocular wrote: Here, things get a bit delicate, but one thing can be pointed out: the aggregates are not all there is. If they would be, ...
Right, there are the aggregates and in addition there is the intellect *irony* :sage:
by ground
Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:35 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Problems with no-self
Replies: 90
Views: 8795

Re: Problems with no-self

Have you tried to examine this "centre"? Is it possibly part of the experience rather than something apart from it? Yes, I tried to examine it. Of course it cannot be without 5 aggregates, but nevertheless the self as center of experience seems to "own" them. But what about the sense of self, that ...
by ground
Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:01 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Problems with no-self
Replies: 90
Views: 8795

Re: Problems with no-self

Have you tried to examine this "centre"? Is it possibly part of the experience rather than something apart from it? Yes, I tried to examine it. Of course it cannot be without 5 aggregates, but nevertheless the self as center of experience seems to "own" them. But what about the sense of self, that ...
by ground
Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:40 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Problems with no-self
Replies: 90
Views: 8795

Re: Problems with no-self

Wow. :shock: I can't believe it. I used to believe in no-self, but suddenly arguments for it lost their convincing power. :cry: So you believed that it is a matter of arguments? For example: Why can't someone postulate: 1) Self that is impermanent ( born 1950, died at 2030 for example )? 2) Self th...
by ground
Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:17 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Skeptical doubt
Replies: 59
Views: 6320

Re: Skeptical doubt

The whole issue seems to be depending on perceiving "true" vs "false" in the context of the ideas arising upon reading, seeing words of the teachings. "Is it really true?" seems to be the essence. Of course, when talking about spirituality and such, there can also be the issue present of how to tal...
by ground
Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:11 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Skeptical doubt
Replies: 59
Views: 6320

Re: Skeptical doubt

I'm not talking about convincing an outside experimenter. I'm talking about having an experimenter's mentality oneself - looking at oneself, at one's own life, one's own experiences with the kind of distance with which an outside observer would watch another person. Yes .... but how do you look at ...
by ground
Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:52 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Skeptical doubt
Replies: 59
Views: 6320

Re: Skeptical doubt

"skeptical doubt" is a kind of wavering, which however prevents involvement. Once "skeptical doubt" has been let go of practice based on the teachings may arise. Once practice based on the teachings has arisen desired effects may arise. Once desired effects have arisen applying the teachings to one'...
by ground
Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:06 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Skeptical doubt
Replies: 59
Views: 6320

Re: Skeptical doubt

I think there can be a middle way where you start with some faith or confidence in the Path and the teachings and try it out for yourself and see if it works; sanditthiko. I am skeptical (!) about such a verificationist approach. In a true experiment, there are constants and there are variables. Bu...
by ground
Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:50 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Skeptical doubt
Replies: 59
Views: 6320

Re: Skeptical doubt

just for illustration purposes ... "One who has conviction & belief ... is called a faith-follower : one who has entered the orderliness of rightness, entered the plane of people of integrity, transcended the plane of the run-of-the-mill. He is incapable of doing any deed by which he might be reborn...
by ground
Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:34 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Skeptical doubt
Replies: 59
Views: 6320

Re: Skeptical doubt

... birth is the supporting condition for suffering, suffering is the supporting condition for faith, faith is the supporting condition for joy, ...
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .bodh.html
by ground
Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:22 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Skeptical doubt
Replies: 59
Views: 6320

Re: Skeptical doubt

A naive and over confident attitude is like driving a car without using the brake pedal. ... Depends. What may appear as "naive and over confident attitude" to a skeptical mind may just be the manifestation of a very successful "faith follower". :sage: Sure, it depends on how much his pure knowledg...
by ground
Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:50 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Skeptical doubt
Replies: 59
Views: 6320

Re: Skeptical doubt

barcsimalsi wrote:A naive and over confident attitude is like driving a car without using the brake pedal. ...
Depends. What may appear as "naive and over confident attitude" to a skeptical mind may just be the manifestation of a very successful "faith follower". :sage:
by ground
Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:45 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Skeptical doubt
Replies: 59
Views: 6320

Re: Skeptical doubt

Actually there is a type of (skeptical) doubt that is not a hindrance at all which refers to the conditioned arising of consciousnesses, both in early stages (identification of experience as this or that) and later stages (conditioned lines of thinking). In practice that means that each time conscio...