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by samseva
Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:24 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Memorization and the Oral Tradition
Replies: 783
Views: 25629

Re: Memorization and the Oral Tradition

To continue my demonstration of how Pascal2's reasoning in this thread is fallacious. I now have a digital representation of Pascal2 . However ... I'm not saying this is Pascal2 . My only claim is that: Pascal2 still hasn't provided good enough evidence to prove this isn't him. Still waiting for yo...
by samseva
Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:19 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Memorization and the Oral Tradition
Replies: 783
Views: 25629

Re: Memorization and the Oral Tradition

I'm going to see if I can find the Pi guy reciting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3AlKU7dfOM Wow, you post the video of Daniel Tammet, who recites Pi to the 20,000th digit— which are numbers without any meaning —and you still think reciting a text that has meaning (Tipiṭakadharas can read/unders...
by samseva
Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Memorization and the Oral Tradition
Replies: 783
Views: 25629

Re: Memorization and the Oral Tradition

[...] Died c. 483 BCE or 400 BCE (aged 80)[1][2][3] Kushinagar, Malla Republic (according to Buddhist tradition)[note 2] That doesn't meet "Pascal2's personal criteria of validity"... You have to provide Pascal2 with something directly written by the Buddha! Oh wait, that won't be accepted by Pasca...
by samseva
Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:09 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Memorization and the Oral Tradition
Replies: 783
Views: 25629

Re: Memorization and the Oral Tradition

Premise #2 ) an historical figure as history properly called as such starts with the existence of written records FALSE (Made up by Pascal2) Ancient history as a term refers to the aggregate of past events[1] from the beginning of writing and recorded human history and extending as far as post-clas...
by samseva
Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:43 pm
Forum: Theravāda for Beginners
Topic: From Mahayana to Theravada
Replies: 31
Views: 12436

Re: From Mahayana to Theravada

My question is; if there’s no Sangha in my home country, is practice in the Theravada tradition something which can be done alone? Yes, definately... Read/study the Suttas, and meditate (and even study the Pāḷi language). Meditation especially , and the resulting progress on the path—which is purel...
by samseva
Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:32 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Mahayana and secular logic has made me largely give up on the path...
Replies: 40
Views: 2032

Re: Mahayana and secular logic has made me largely give up on the path...

[...] I said it is the precise opposite of what the OP said— which it is . And I also said: "Pure logic" (i.e., papañca ) [...] Didn't say anything about basic logic... or thinking, or wisdom, or right view—I talked about papañca . I.e. stands for id est , which means "that is." [...] For example, ...
by samseva
Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Memorization and the Oral Tradition
Replies: 783
Views: 25629

Re: Memorization and the Oral Tradition

I'll now demonstrate how Pascal2's reasoning in this thread is fallacious. I thereby claim that: Pascal2 is something else other than human. He has arms, legs, lives in a cave (and has brightly coloured hair), but he is something other than human... The burden of proof is on me, and although I can'...
by samseva
Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Memorization and the Oral Tradition
Replies: 783
Views: 25629

Re: Memorization and the Oral Tradition

This is Pascal2's claim—and the original post of the discussion: Split from this topic: https://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=28550 I hope I will not ruffle any feathers here, but let' s not forget that the Buddha allegedly died hundreds of years before his teachings were put into written doc...
by samseva
Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:09 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Memorization and the Oral Tradition
Replies: 783
Views: 25629

Re: Memorization and the Oral Tradition

Not about my life experience, but about the knowledge that there are plenty of books that seemingly satisfy the criteria you have put forward [...] Yes, there is scholarly research on the topic discussed. However, it would take 1-2 hours to find the relevant information and neatly write about it, a...
by samseva
Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:05 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Memorization and the Oral Tradition
Replies: 783
Views: 25629

Re: Memorization and the Oral Tradition

It may be an opinion that you don't haven't done the reading and studying required to understand, but that's back to your position of ignorance. I am waiting for you to provide me the necessary evidence to study and read. So far I have not seen much Wooowww... Do you want that information on a gold...
by samseva
Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:47 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Memorization and the Oral Tradition
Replies: 783
Views: 25629

Re: Memorization and the Oral Tradition

Verbatim examples of the fallacious arguments based on the appeal to ignorance: But is the evidence presented enough to have a reliable assessment that the teachings come out from the mouth of the Buddha and/or His disciples? The only thing we have as "evidence" is a body of texts that we do not kno...
by samseva
Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:44 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Memorization and the Oral Tradition
Replies: 783
Views: 25629

Re: Memorization and the Oral Tradition

[...] also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance represents "a lack of contrary evidence"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is false because it has not yet been proven true. https://en.wikiped...
by samseva
Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Mahayana and secular logic has made me largely give up on the path...
Replies: 40
Views: 2032

Re: Mahayana and secular logic has made me largely give up on the path...

"Pure logic" leads to nowhere good. this is flawed logic Flawed logic? Maybe because you modified my post to suit your argument... I'm sure most would agree (even you) that "papañca leads to nowhere good." In academia, this is called "academic hishonesty." It is heavely frowned upon and usually lea...
by samseva
Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:06 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Memorization and the Oral Tradition
Replies: 783
Views: 25629

Re: Memorization and the Oral Tradition

That's why your position is merely an argument from ignorance. :goodpost: :goodpost: [...] also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance represents "a lack of contrary evidence"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false ...