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by kc2dpt
Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:02 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6225
Views: 595100

Re: the great rebirth debate

The debate is whether that preferred practice is actually a Buddhist practice. If this is so, Peter, then which "preferred practice" are you claiming is "not actually a Buddhist practice"? The practice of adopting the view that there is no rebirth, no heavens and hells, no people who have seen the ...
by kc2dpt
Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:01 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6225
Views: 595100

Re: the great rebirth debate

but why does the Buddha have to be talking about two different lives why not two different moments? An easy example: Ananda asked the Buddha the status of a recently deceased monk. The Buddha replied the monk had attained sotapanna and would therefore be reborn no more than seven times. Since the m...
by kc2dpt
Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6225
Views: 595100

Re: the great rebirth debate

but why does the Buddha have to be talking about two different lives why not two different moments? An easy example: Ananda asked the Buddha the status of a recently deceased monk. The Buddha replied the monk had attained sotapanna and would therefore be reborn no more than seven times. Since the m...
by kc2dpt
Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:19 pm
Forum: Theravāda for Beginners
Topic: Introductory resources
Replies: 46
Views: 39818

Re: Introductory resources

Can't forget physical books:
"In the Buddha's Words" by Bhikkhu Bodhi
http://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=14640
"Mindfulness, Bliss, and Beyond" by Ajahn Brahm
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.ph ... 37#p296291
by kc2dpt
Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:23 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6225
Views: 595100

Re: the great rebirth debate

Therefore this "debate" wastes so much energy by one faction talking about their preferred practice and the other on the fact of Buddha teaching literal rebirth. The debate is whether that preferred practice is actually a Buddhist practice. If one comes to a Buddhist forum and says their preferred ...
by kc2dpt
Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:38 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Kalama Sutta
Replies: 16
Views: 3703

Re: Kalama Sutta

He did not teach the four noble truths nor the noble eightfold path nor anything regarding arahantship or nibbana. the reason he did not teach those things is because the Kalamas had not taken refuge in the Buddha. Yes, but my point was that he did not in fact "[teach] his transcendent, Noble teach...
by kc2dpt
Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:11 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Kalama Sutta
Replies: 16
Views: 3703

Re: Kalama Sutta

stuka wrote:The Buddha taught his transcendent, Noble teachings of discernment to householders in this Sutta
He did not teach the four noble truths nor the noble eightfold path nor anything regarding arahantship or nibbana.
by kc2dpt
Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great rebirth debate
Replies: 6225
Views: 595100

Re: the great rebirth debate

I also believe that the Buddha was more intent on removing the 'self' or 'atman' from people's perceptions, and thereby removing eternalist and annihilationist views than he was about convincing people about 'rebirth'. I don't think he needed to convince most people about rebirth. Wasn't it the dom...