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by christopher:::
Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:46 am
Forum: Dhammic Stories
Topic: Ajahn Chah's Life & Dhamma Teachings
Replies: 54
Views: 11980

Re: Ajahn Chah's Life & Dhamma Teachings

Hi Christopher, Sorry for the late reply. The "Thamma" in "Thammachart" is the same as the the Thai word for Dhamma. Dhamma = Tham (ธรรม) - also spelt Thamma (ธรรมะ) Nature = Thammachart (ธรรมชาติ) In the talk "Thammachart" is used to refer to the natural world/nature ( no hidden meanings if that i...
by christopher:::
Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:30 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravdan vs Mahayana view of objective reality
Replies: 100
Views: 6660

Re: Theravdan vs Mahayana view of objective reality

tiltbillings wrote:
christopher::: wrote: Interesting!

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:anjali:
It still does not qualify as a koan.
True, but its still a fine question, and does relate to this...
by christopher:::
Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:17 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravdan vs Mahayana view of objective reality
Replies: 100
Views: 6660

Re: Theravdan vs Mahayana view of objective reality

The Zen koan "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?" gets at this nicely Thats not a Zen Koan but a question by an Irish philosopher. All sorts of things get called "Zen koans," which clearly are not. Interesting! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_...
by christopher:::
Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:44 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravdan vs Mahayana view of objective reality
Replies: 100
Views: 6660

Re: Theravdan vs Mahayana view of objective reality

Implicit in this view is that there is an objective world that exists, that trees sway, planets spin, birds fly, winds blow clouds of moisture thru the sky... What is "subjectively" fabricated by thought are the names (trees, planets, birds, wind) and how those are perceived by the senses (how they ...
by christopher:::
Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:30 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravdan vs Mahayana view of objective reality
Replies: 100
Views: 6660

Re: Theravdan vs Mahayana view of objective reality

Please do tell. I tried to. It's much simpler [conceptually] if we limit subjective to that which is constructed by the senses (and requires an experiencer ) and objective to that which can be measured (and experienced) by sentient beings but is happening in the world even without sentient observat...
by christopher:::
Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:18 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravdan vs Mahayana view of objective reality
Replies: 100
Views: 6660

Re: Theravdan vs Mahayana view of objective reality

The first points to subjective experience (what is constructed of the senses), the second to objective reality (what happens of itself). The point is that in the context described you cannot confirm what you call "objective reality" because it is fabricated by thought. The speaker says "a tree fall...
by christopher:::
Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:55 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravdan vs Mahayana view of objective reality
Replies: 100
Views: 6660

Re: Theravdan vs Mahayana view of objective reality

The Zen koan "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?" gets at this nicely, which could be paired with "if a nuclear reactor releases radiation and no one is there to measure it can it still cause cancer?" .... :sage: Huh?? The first points to subjective ...
by christopher:::
Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:43 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravdan vs Mahayana view of objective reality
Replies: 100
Views: 6660

Re: Theravdan vs Mahayana view of objective reality

I dunno about objective and subjective from a Mahayana vs Theravada view, but i see it this way... Subjective is what our minds and senses construct, how we experience the world. Objective is what is happening of itself, Dharma, Nature, Science... Subjective is important because this is the realm of...
by christopher:::
Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:35 am
Forum: Dhammic Stories
Topic: Papanca!
Replies: 6
Views: 1063

Re: Papanca!

One day this monk told Ajahn Chah the Zen story about the flag and the wind, and asked: Is it the flag that blows or is it the wind?" Ajahn Chah answered: "It's neither; it's the mind" The Korean monk thought that was wonderful and immediately bowed to Ajahn Chah. But then Ajahn Chah said he'd just...
by christopher:::
Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:31 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Joseph Goldstein: Achieved is the End of Craving
Replies: 54
Views: 8324

Re: Joseph Goldstein: Achieved is the End of Craving

Hello all, What an interesting man Wei Wu Wei was (a.k.a. Terence James Stannus Gray). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Wu_Wei" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; with metta Chris This was cool... Why are you unhappy? Because 99.9 per cent Of everything you think, And of everything you d...
by christopher:::
Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:24 am
Forum: Dhammic Stories
Topic: Ajahn Chah's Life & Dhamma Teachings
Replies: 54
Views: 11980

Re: Ajahn Chah's Life & Dhamma Teachings

Incidentally i would be most interested to hear which Thai or Lao term was translated as " nature" in the above quotation. Hi Peter, The Thai term used in this talk is ธรรมชาติ - Thammachart Let me know if you need any more info on the Thai langauge version. Regards, Ben Hi Ben. Thamma here is rela...
by christopher:::
Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:52 am
Forum: Lounge (Archive)
Topic: massive earthquake and tsunamis hit japan
Replies: 81
Views: 8198

Re: massive earthquake and tsunamis hit japan

The situation up there appears to still be very dangerous and unstable. And yesterday my son's high school announced that they'll be sending his grade's students to a ski resort 100 kilometers north of Fukushima next January, for their school trip. There hasn't been high radioactivity measured there...
by christopher:::
Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:41 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Why would people do that ?
Replies: 92
Views: 8700

Re: Why would people do that ?

I have nothing to add to this topic but think Chris offered a worthwhile perspective... Hey guys, Can we all take a deep breath? Aloka and chownah are valued members, and even if they don't really know all that the Mods have been through, that's O.K. Mods always get criticised - that's part of Mod-S...
by christopher:::
Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:41 pm
Forum: Dhammic Stories
Topic: Ajahn Chah's Life & Dhamma Teachings
Replies: 54
Views: 11980

Re: Ajahn Chah's Life & Dhamma Teachings

It is not clear to me how nature is teaching Dependant Origination (for example ).... in contrast for example to our learning about D.O as a consequence of the event under the Bo Tree, and then seeing it work out in terms of arising phenomena. Indeed, I haven't seen where Luang Por Chah mentioned t...
by christopher:::
Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:52 am
Forum: Dhammic Stories
Topic: Ajahn Chah's Life & Dhamma Teachings
Replies: 54
Views: 11980

Re: Ajahn Chah's Life & Dhamma Teachings

Yes..!: Im sorry Christopher I didn't realize you had already posted that link. :anjali: Not a problem, in the least. I think the point is being missed here....or rather the context. This is a transcript of a translation of an extemporised talk given by Luang Por Chah to monks who were already his ...