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by chownah
Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:11 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Causes for gratitude
Replies: 89
Views: 1089

Re: Causes for gratitude

3. "You're fully aware of the kamma of telling an explicit intentional lie right?" A: The exact working out of kamma is unknowable....so I am not fully aware of the kamma of telling an explicit intentional lie.....and I am not interested in hearing anything you have to say on the subject. This is w...
by chownah
Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:52 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Noble Eightfold Path is only for monks not for the household!!
Replies: 86
Views: 1504

Re: Noble Eightfold Path is only for monks not for the household!!

In my opinion faith follower and Dhamma follower both are noble people even though they have not eradicated any fetters. I accidently found this sutta and I think you will be interested in it because it show a very different way of determining or thinking about who is noble: https://suttacentral.ne...
by chownah
Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:14 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Causes for gratitude
Replies: 89
Views: 1089

Re: Causes for gratitude

Is veneration an expression of gratitude?
chownah
by chownah
Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:11 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Causes for gratitude
Replies: 89
Views: 1089

Re: Causes for gratitude

It really does seem that gratitude is rarely mentioned explicitly in the suttas As I said above, the terms kataññutā and kataveditā are translated by the English term "gratitude" and they are used quite frequently and explicitly. Check them out on SuttaCentral's search function and you will see. I ...
by chownah
Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:01 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Causes for gratitude
Replies: 89
Views: 1089

Re: Causes for gratitude

.... And I will repeat, please answer my questions and provide proof to your claim. an2.32 does not mention gratitude at all. You're fully aware of the kamma of telling an explicit intentional lie right? Please see AN 2.32 I think this is a list of all of the questions you have asked me and the "cl...
by chownah
Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:36 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Causes for gratitude
Replies: 89
Views: 1089

Re: Causes for gratitude

an2.32 does not mention gratitude at all.
chownah
by chownah
Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:32 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Causes for gratitude
Replies: 89
Views: 1089

Re: Causes for gratitude

What else does He have to do to convince you about the practice of gratitude? Spell it out loud like: "I, the Buddha, and this act of mine is an expression of gratitude"?? Yes, why not? Why doesn't the buddha just say it out loud that his actions are expressions of gratitude....why doesn't anyone s...
by chownah
Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:23 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Causes for gratitude
Replies: 89
Views: 1089

Re: Causes for gratitude

It really does seem that gratitude is rarely mentioned explicitly in the suttas and quite frankly it seems to me that some of the examples of implied gratefullness seem to be contrived and without substance. Maybe I don't understand gratitude.....maybe someone should try to explain or define it.... ...
by chownah
Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Causes for gratitude
Replies: 89
Views: 1089

Re: Causes for gratitude

Notice that the buddha is talking about "your" mother and father....not "my" mother and father. Notice that the Buddha didn't just give mere talks in AN 2.31/2.32 . He himself did His part by rousing, establishing not only His father, but his entire extended royal family(uncles, cousins, His own so...
by chownah
Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:43 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Noble Eightfold Path is only for monks not for the household!!
Replies: 86
Views: 1504

Re: Noble Eightfold Path is only for monks not for the household!!

sunnat wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:17 pm
The path is for all.
If you can see the path then you can follow it.
chownah
by chownah
Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:39 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Causes for gratitude
Replies: 89
Views: 1089

Re: Causes for gratitude

Notice that the buddha is talking about "your" mother and father....not "my" mother and father. Notice that the Buddha didn't just give mere talks in AN 2.31/2.32 . He himself did His part by rousing, establishing not only His father, but his entire extended royal family(uncles, cousins, His own so...
by chownah
Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:51 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Noble Eightfold Path is only for monks not for the household!!
Replies: 86
Views: 1504

Re: Noble Eightfold Path is only for monks not for the household!!

Greetings Sarath, Do you mean that the householder is stream entrant? They can be, but it doesn't mean they are. You are evidently confused. Let me try to clarify - one relates to ordination status (I.e. Not ordained = householder), the other relates to enlightenment status (I.e. Puthujjana = not e...
by chownah
Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:32 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Hindu elements in Buddhism
Replies: 18
Views: 628

Re: Hindu elements in Buddhism

Thanks for the replies, particularly about Sri Lanka. Since many Buddhists in these countries do so, ........... This is not a justification for anything nor does it make anything more acceptable....... Consider: Since many buddhists in thailand get drunk weekly is it acceptable to do so? chownah
by chownah
Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:51 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Arahant's suicide
Replies: 200
Views: 3318

Re: See the Pali original

The Pali original has this phrase. The information on Theravada.ru site is correct. I don't know what you are talking about. So....someone made up a story about what it says in some Commentary?....is that what you posted before?....please respond to this....please answer my question. chownah It rea...
by chownah
Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:49 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Arahant's suicide
Replies: 200
Views: 3318

Re: Arahant's suicide

If khandhas is dukkha in three times, and dukkha is a loss, why did Buddha continue dukkha, staying alive - when he was able to commit suicide? Because the buddha did not suffer from dukkha.....and the buddha could have blissfull and joyous abiding anytime he wanted and for as long as he wanted. A ...