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by chownah
Fri May 08, 2020 4:14 am
Forum: Hot Topics
Topic: Coronavirus
Replies: 322
Views: 19247

Re: Coronavirus

Many people have been talking about the problems caused by mechanical ventilators for a very long time.....here is the section on Risk from the wikipedia article on Mechanical Ventilation: Risk Mechanical ventilation is often a life-saving intervention, but carries potential complications including ...
by chownah
Thu May 07, 2020 3:30 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: killing bugs
Replies: 33
Views: 1248

Re: killing bugs

Sam Vara wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 6:22 pm
The survival or comfort of my children is, regardless of "objective morality" (whatever that is...) likeable and desirable and agreeable. Therefore the action that results in it cannot be bad conduct.
Isn't this what every soldier thinks as they go off to war?....on both sides?
chownah
by chownah
Thu May 07, 2020 3:27 am
Forum: Hot Topics
Topic: Coronavirus
Replies: 322
Views: 19247

Re: Coronavirus

Are ventilators more damaging than help? Perhaps the ventilators are used by inexperienced doctors.... The dr. seem pretty young to be a dr.......could he be showing his freshness and lack of experience and just showing how what happens in the real world can not be adequately taught in med. school?...
by chownah
Wed May 06, 2020 1:05 pm
Forum: Hot Topics
Topic: Coronavirus
Replies: 322
Views: 19247

Re: Coronavirus

Agree. I can recall a nurse from Italy complained about the ventilators some months back. Many people are dying while on ventilators. It is to know that the ventilator is not a miracle machine. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/29/study-finds-a-third-of-uk-covid-19-patients-taken-to-hosp...
by chownah
Wed May 06, 2020 2:42 am
Forum: Hot Topics
Topic: Coronavirus
Replies: 322
Views: 19247

Re: Coronavirus

Are ventilators more damaging than help? Perhaps the ventilators are used by inexperienced doctors. https://youtu.be/0yrCjsaZKg8 The dangers and drawbacks of using ventilators is well known in the medical community and has been presented on the internet.......the dr.'s views are not news about the ...
by chownah
Mon May 04, 2020 3:40 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bodily Fabrications
Replies: 48
Views: 1286

Re: Bodily Fabrications

"But why are in-&-out breaths bodily fabrications? Why are directed thought & evaluation verbal fabrications? Why are perceptions & feelings mental fabrications?" "In-&-out breaths are bodily; these are things tied up with the body. That's why in-&-out breaths are bodily fabrications. https://www.a...
by chownah
Sun May 03, 2020 7:51 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Processes at sense doors
Replies: 69
Views: 2053

Re: Processes at sense doors

Sorry I'm not following you here. The suttas do describe our bodies as being made up of "internal" elements - see MN140 for example. I don't see how "fabrications" are relevant in this context. We're talking about the elements of the rupa aggregate here, and not the sankharas aggregate. . My point ...
by chownah
Sun May 03, 2020 5:59 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Processes at sense doors
Replies: 69
Views: 2053

Re: Processes at sense doors

Dependent origination seems to be about the conditional nature of our experience, and not about the elements themselves. The four great elements (earth, water, wind and fire) come together to form our bodies ("internal" form), and also oceans, mountains etc ("external" form). I don't think the sutt...
by chownah
Sun May 03, 2020 5:42 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Throwing away food in water with no bacteria in it
Replies: 21
Views: 688

Re: Throwing away food in water with no bacteria in it

Having read some things here more thoroughly I have a question: It seems that there are two issues with the food that was to be discarded.....first there is the idea that it contains a subtle essence put there by some devas thus making the food unfit for any being (except perhaps the buddha and arah...
by chownah
Sat May 02, 2020 2:32 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Processes at sense doors
Replies: 69
Views: 2053

Re: Processes at sense doors

I don't think the suttas deny that bodies and oceans exist, It seems that in the sutta the idea of things "existing" or "not existing" is avoided while the buddha instead takes the middle way which is dependenet origination I guess....don't know for sure.... nor do I think it's particularly about b...
by chownah
Sat May 02, 2020 2:23 pm
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Throwing away food in water with no bacteria in it
Replies: 21
Views: 688

Re: Throwing away food in water with no bacteria in it

I am interested in knowing where the information about a devas digestive system comes from.....it seems that it omits the point which is central to our discussion namely what happens if a deva eats coarse food. The info is from the commentaries. They don't specify exactly what would happen if a dev...
by chownah
Sat May 02, 2020 12:39 pm
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Throwing away food in water with no bacteria in it
Replies: 21
Views: 688

Re: Throwing away food in water with no bacteria in it

I don't see eating something which can not be digested as being much of a problem....it will just pass through the digestive system undigested. How could it when there's no excretion in the heavenly realms? Like hydras and jellyfish, devas don't urinate. Like demodex mites, they don't defecate. But...
by chownah
Sat May 02, 2020 12:25 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Processes at sense doors
Replies: 69
Views: 2053

Re: Processes at sense doors

I don't think the suttas deny that bodies and oceans exist, It seems that in the sutta the idea of things "existing" or "not existing" is avoided while the buddha instead takes the middle way which is dependenet origination I guess....don't know for sure.... nor do I think it's particularly about b...
by chownah
Sat May 02, 2020 7:52 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Throwing away food in water with no bacteria in it
Replies: 21
Views: 688

Re: Throwing away food in water with no bacteria in it

Why is it said to "throw the milk-rice away in a place without vegetation, or dump it in water with no living beings."........why do this with it?....certainly if put in a place without vegetation a rat or bird will come and eat it....so what's the point?
chownah
by chownah
Sat May 02, 2020 3:53 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Throwing away food in water with no bacteria in it
Replies: 21
Views: 688

Re: Throwing away food in water with no bacteria in it

I don't see eating something which can not be digested as being much of a problem....it will just pass through the digestive system undigested. If devas can't digest coarse food don't they know to not eat it (if eating coarse food is a problem for them)?...I find it strange that devas are so ignoran...