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by seeker242
Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:32 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Buddha and dukkha
Replies: 92
Views: 2413

Re: Buddha and dukkha

Except the Buddha defined pain as dukkha and had to endure it. The Buddha defined pain as dukkha, for an ordinary person , not inherently. The sutta quoted is referencing, as it says, those who have yet to cultivate the path. That is not applicable for the Buddha. If the Buddha did not experience d...
by seeker242
Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:30 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Buddha and dukkha
Replies: 92
Views: 2413

Re: Buddha and dukkha

Except the Buddha defined pain as dukkha and had to endure it. The Buddha defined pain as dukkha, for an ordinary person , not inherently. The sutta quoted is referencing, as it says, those who have yet to cultivate the path. That is not applicable for the Buddha. Nothing in the sutta supports that...
by seeker242
Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:21 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Buddha and dukkha
Replies: 92
Views: 2413

Re: Buddha and dukkha

Yet he had to endure it. He felt the first dart of suffering, not the 2nd. He felt pain, not suffering. He was able to endure pain because it did not cause suffering. What is the cause of suffering? Clinging. The Buddha does not engage in any clinging and therefore cannot suffer. Except the Buddha ...
by seeker242
Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:02 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Buddha and dukkha
Replies: 92
Views: 2413

Re: Buddha and dukkha

"Monks, there are these three kinds of suffering.[1] What three? Suffering caused by pain,[2] suffering caused by the formations (or conditioned existence),[3] suffering due to change.[4] It is for the full comprehension, clear understanding, ending and abandonment of these three forms of suffering...
by seeker242
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:01 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Buddha and dukkha
Replies: 92
Views: 2413

Re: Buddha and dukkha

"Monks, there are these three kinds of suffering.[1] What three? Suffering caused by pain,[2] suffering caused by the formations (or conditioned existence),[3] suffering due to change.[4] It is for the full comprehension, clear understanding, ending and abandonment of these three forms of suffering...
by seeker242
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:19 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Sex is always unwholesome
Replies: 73
Views: 5211

Re: Sex is always unwholesome

You could easily say it's always unwholesome as it's not going to lead you to enlightenment. However, some things are much more unwholesome than others. On a scale of 1-10, sex that is not sexual misconduct, is quite low on the list.
by seeker242
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:16 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Is the Jain stance on nonviolence more compelling then the Buddhist viewpoint?
Replies: 25
Views: 1903

Re: Is the Jain stance on nonviolence more compelling then the Buddhist viewpoint?

weak wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:34 pm
would the Buddhist viewpoint be sympathetic to the warped moral codes of the vigilante general public who demand mob justice?
There is no reason to think that it would.
by seeker242
Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:30 pm
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Slaughterhouse workers
Replies: 52
Views: 3684

Re: Slaughterhouse workers

:focus: :popcorn: Ok! :D Another good article on the topic "The harrowing psychological toll of slaughterhouse work" "The psychological toll this takes on a person cannot be underestimated. Slaughterhouse work has been linked to a variety of disorders, including PTSD and the lesser-known PITS (perp...
by seeker242
Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:39 pm
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Slaughterhouse workers
Replies: 52
Views: 3684

Re: Slaughterhouse workers

No it's not, but as lay people if you follow 5 precepts you are called a virtuous lay follower, meat eater or not :) Yes, but the issue does not concern the precepts to begin with. It doesn't have anything to do with the precepts or even kamma. The animals in question, that are being killed, don't ...
by seeker242
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Slaughterhouse workers
Replies: 52
Views: 3684

Re: Slaughterhouse workers

It is good that vegetarians (and anybody) have compassion for animals. But they do not own feelings of compassion for animals. Anyone of any diet can have compassion for animals. To think they have exclusive rights to that sentiment could only be conceit. Is anyone saying that? I don't think so. Ev...
by seeker242
Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:12 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Slaughterhouse workers
Replies: 52
Views: 3684

Re: Slaughterhouse workers

It is good that vegetarians (and anybody) have compassion for animals. But they do not own feelings of compassion for animals. Anyone of any diet can have compassion for animals. To think they have exclusive rights to that sentiment could only be conceit. Is anyone saying that? I don't think so. Ev...
by seeker242
Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:54 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Slaughterhouse workers
Replies: 52
Views: 3684

Re: Slaughterhouse workers

Is it appropriate from a Buddhist POV to knowingly and willingly give support to another person's wrong livelihood? You could argue that it's not against the precepts. However, to argue that it's completely neutral and benign, that's a tall order!
by seeker242
Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:38 pm
Forum: Sīla
Topic: about 3rd precept
Replies: 33
Views: 1910

Re: about 3rd precept

garibaldi1689 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:24 am
seeker242 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:58 pm
What do you take the 3rd precept to be about?
abstain from any sexual activities
For laypeople, the 3rd precept is about abstaining from misconduct in sexual activity. Not about abstaining from all sexual activity. The Buddha did not ask that of laypeople.
by seeker242
Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:56 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Isn't mindfulness absurd?
Replies: 59
Views: 2813

Re: S.N. Goenka says: only use one kind of meditation...why?

I think most people have misunderstood this, so let me simplify. Many times meditators complain that they go off on a long train of thought, return to breathing etc. etc. Familiar story. Why do you think they get 'caught' in the network of thought to begin with? They become distracted, catch themse...
by seeker242
Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:49 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Isn't mindfulness absurd?
Replies: 59
Views: 2813

Re: Isn't mindfulness absurd?

:namaste: Nothing can be observed in real time. We observe everything after the event. For example, you observe anger AFTER it has occurred, which is why there is regret. You observe the thought AFTER it's occurred, which is why there's frustration is not being able to control it. So point is: we n...