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by seeker242
Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:08 am
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

Sam Vara wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:09 pm
So, what should we be looking for?
Go back to being a hunter gather and stop pooping indoors, stop driving cars, stop living in buildings, stop wearing clothes, because all those things are completely unnatural. Just go live naked in the forest and eat stuff out of the dirt.

:jumping: :rofl:
by seeker242
Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:58 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

Bacteria is the only way B12 is ever produced and has always been that way, regardless if animals are involved or not. Animal gut bacteria is what produces it, not the animal themselves. But, only when the animal's diet contains sufficient amounts of cobalt. When it does not, which is often the case...
by seeker242
Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

Sam Vara wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:36 pm

They add the B12 during manufacture. Do you mean where do they make it? I believe France and Germany produce the bulk of what is consumed in Europe.
Originally, it comes from fermentation of bacteria, neither plant nor animal. They stopped making it from animals back in the 1960's :)
by seeker242
Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:01 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

6 Science-Based Health Benefits of Eating Vegan

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/ve ... t-benefits
by seeker242
Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:59 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

Dr. Joel Kahn on the benefits of a vegan diet.

by seeker242
Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:49 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

Dr. Ellsworth Wareham on the healthfulness of a vegan diet

by seeker242
Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:38 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

Dr. Garth Davis on how veganism is not dangerous.

by seeker242
Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:34 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

Dr. Michael Klaper on the healthfulness of a vegan diet.

by seeker242
Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

Unless they have very good reason to, such as their health. And when health is fine without it, which it is for millions of people, it's fine. As you say: "Nonsense" :) And the largest organization of nutrition professionals in the world disagrees with that assessment. Not a coincidence. :D
by seeker242
Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

budo wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:12 pm
seeker242 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:10 pm
budo wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:31 pm


Fortunately, one does not have to buy factory farmed meat to eat meat :)
Fortunately, one does not have to buy any kind.
Unless they have very good reason to, such as their health.
And when health is fine without it, which it is for millions of people, it's fine.
by seeker242
Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

Fortunately, ariyas are purer than putajanas, if they're allowed to eat meat, so can lay people. Otherwise the Buddha would have banned meat entirely. Fortunately, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a layperson choosing to eat a plant based diet. And Fortunately, the barbaric practices of moder...
by seeker242
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:24 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

Fortunately, lay people can buy meat at grocery stores. Like for example in the suttas, where butchers set up shop at crossroads where they butcher the animals for anyone who crosses and not for an individual specifically. Fortunately, lay people have a choice in what to eat, unlike monks. Fortunat...
by seeker242
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

Fortunantly buying meat at a grocery store is not killed for ones behalf. Fortunately, monks don't buy meat at grocery stores. Fortunately, lay people can buy meat at grocery stores. Like for example in the suttas, where butchers set up shop at crossroads where they butcher the animals for anyone w...
by seeker242
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:12 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

budo wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:11 pm
seeker242 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:10 pm
budo wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:08 pm


Which is why he allowed monks to eat meat.
And prohibited monks from accepting that which was killed on their behalf.
Fortunantly buying meat at a grocery store is not killed for ones behalf.
Fortunately, monks don't buy meat at grocery stores.
by seeker242
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:10 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet & Fitness
Topic: Veganism: a host of issues.
Replies: 120
Views: 6392

Re: Veganism: a host of issues.

budo wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:08 pm
seeker242 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:08 pm

The Buddha made it quite clear that one should avoid causing harm to others.
Which is why he allowed monks to eat meat.
And prohibited monks from accepting that which was killed on their behalf.