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by Zom
Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:05 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Results of past karma
Replies: 56
Views: 1770

Re: Results of past karma

It is difficult to say, what means "at minimum". But if suffering is concerned, short life can cause a small suffering (if say a person dies in a sudden accident). Being poor or going to jail might bring more problems. Kamma is not about social justice. Kamma is not about "punishing" you with whate...
by Zom
Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:17 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Results of past karma
Replies: 56
Views: 1770

Re: Results of past karma

Hello Zom (or whatever your real name is). Your short description on Karma is very interesting . I wonder if you can direct me to any website or blog on Karma that you know. Some articles on Karma that I read were rather boring, or else I find them not making sense. More on the imaginations than an...
by Zom
Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:59 pm
Forum: Vipassanā / Satipaṭṭhāna Bhāvana
Topic: What is the difference of Citta contemplation and Dhamma contemplation in Satipathana?
Replies: 34
Views: 2777

Re: What is the difference of Citta contemplation and Dhamma contemplation in Satipathana?

These are not dhammas contemplation .

You don't "contemplate" 7foe & 5 hindrances !
You contemplate the 5 aggregates dhamma .
These are. You contemplate how all these things work and happen in your mind. How antidotes work with all these things and other dhammas.
by Zom
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:40 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Results of past karma
Replies: 56
Views: 1770

Re: Results of past karma

does not give you the right to claim that there's no such thing as current life kamma
You read my posts carelessly, since nowhere had I stated that. I just explained what types of causes/effects in this life are not kamma and why.
by Zom
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:54 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Results of past karma
Replies: 56
Views: 1770

Re: Results of past karma

Then prove it or at least show some concrete sutta references or literature to back up your claim. You've done neither one so far. I already proved that saying that if that was the case, then "I steal ---> And because of that I became rich" is kamma too. But obviously it is not, and even Buddha say...
by Zom
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Results of past karma
Replies: 56
Views: 1770

Re: Results of past karma

You are wrong in claiming that a positive action in this life can only and exclusively bear fruit in subsequent lives.
I didn't say that. I say that most of actions here and now with direct obvious results have nothing to do with kamma.
by Zom
Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:47 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Results of past karma
Replies: 56
Views: 1770

Re: Results of past karma

Similarly, if the police puts you in jail because you've committed a deliberate and intentional act of stealing, that's your kamma right there If that is the case, then we have absurd situations where bad kammic deeds lead to good kammic results, like when police didn't get you, and you become rich...
by Zom
Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:44 pm
Forum: Vipassanā / Satipaṭṭhāna Bhāvana
Topic: What is the difference of Citta contemplation and Dhamma contemplation in Satipathana?
Replies: 34
Views: 2777

Re: What is the difference of Citta contemplation and Dhamma contemplation in Satipathana?

Can you be more precise about what you exactly consider as a "dhamma" or "dhammas" in all this?
I already said what suttas understand by dhammas in 4th satipatthana. These are 7 enlightment factors and 5 hindrances.
by Zom
Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Results of past karma
Replies: 56
Views: 1770

Re: Results of past karma

False statement. It is kamma. You don't really understand what kamma is. Obvious social causes and effects seen here and now are not kamma . For example, you steal something, police finds you and puts you in a jail. There is no kamma here. Kamma of stealing - is being poor. The fruit of this kamma ...
by Zom
Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:18 pm
Forum: Vipassanā / Satipaṭṭhāna Bhāvana
Topic: What is the difference of Citta contemplation and Dhamma contemplation in Satipathana?
Replies: 34
Views: 2777

Re: What is the difference of Citta contemplation and Dhamma contemplation in Satipathana?

What "ongoing processes between dhammas" could probably mean?
Here is "useless answer" for you from the Buddha: https://suttacentral.net/sn46.51/en/bodhi 8-)
by Zom
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:38 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Results of past karma
Replies: 56
Views: 1770

Re: Results of past karma

One could lose his job due to instant kamma of illegal behaviors in the office
This is not kamma.
My question here is: losing job (outward) is karma vipaka. But losing peace of mind as a result (inward) - is this also karma vipaka?
No.
by Zom
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: Vipassanā / Satipaṭṭhāna Bhāvana
Topic: What is the difference of Citta contemplation and Dhamma contemplation in Satipathana?
Replies: 34
Views: 2777

Re: What is the difference of Citta contemplation and Dhamma contemplation in Satipathana?

As mikenz66 said, 4th frame of reference is more about ongoing processes between dhammas, not dhammas themselves.
Here is what is to be contemplated while practising 4th satipatthana: https://suttacentral.net/sn46.51/en/bodhi :reading:
by Zom
Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: Vipassanā / Satipaṭṭhāna Bhāvana
Topic: What is the difference of Citta contemplation and Dhamma contemplation in Satipathana?
Replies: 34
Views: 2777

Re: What is the difference of Citta contemplation and Dhamma contemplation in Satipathana?

One way of thinking about the four areas of mindfulness is that the first three are basically about building up concentration and mindfulness on aspects that go from gross to subtle. The fourth area is about insight into dynamics, understanding, and development. Precisely. And - if we take a look o...
by Zom
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:52 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Let's discuss super normal powers.
Replies: 12
Views: 472

Re: Let's discuss super normal powers.

How supernormal powers become an enlightenment factor?
Isn't real time seeing of passing away and reappearance in a new life an enlighenment factor? I guess it is -)
by Zom
Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Results of past karma
Replies: 56
Views: 1770

Re: Results of past karma

Wanting to do something (mental action) and doing it (physical action) is kamma. We are talking about vipaka (fruit) of kamma, not about the seed aka intention. By the way, the topic is interesting if EVERY intention is kamma. Buddha actually didn't say so - he classified kamma with particular inte...