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by santa100
Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:07 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Paticcasamupadda - namarupa/name-and-form, vinnana/consciousness, and sankharas/fabrications
Replies: 41
Views: 626

Re: Paticcasamupadda - namarupa/name-and-form, vinnana/consciousness, and sankharas/fabrications

Why do you keep advocating all this conspiracy theory nonsense in so many posts? I'll repeat my question: Now per DO: Avijja conditions Sankhara, then Sankhara conditions Vinnana; now if Vinnana is exclusively of the sense consciousness, then how can Vinnana exists before Nama-Rupa come into the pi...
by santa100
Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:00 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Paticcasamupadda - namarupa/name-and-form, vinnana/consciousness, and sankharas/fabrications
Replies: 41
Views: 626

Re: Paticcasamupadda - namarupa/name-and-form, vinnana/consciousness, and sankharas/fabrications

It's not rebirth consciousness, but it's the proof to your false conclusion that consciousness is exclusively sense consciouness. Not at all. I addressed this in my last post. No evidence it is a 7th consciousness. In short, it seems the only evidence we have is the Buddha taught six consciousnesse...
by santa100
Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:54 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Paticcasamupadda - namarupa/name-and-form, vinnana/consciousness, and sankharas/fabrications
Replies: 41
Views: 626

Re: Paticcasamupadda - namarupa/name-and-form, vinnana/consciousness, and sankharas/fabrications

Have you read MN 49? I already mentioned this and, as I said, it doesn't sound like a "rebirth" consciousness. How could a " non-manifesting " consciousness manifest into "rebirth"? :roll: Also, I recall the Venerable Dhammanando posted it does not have the meaning of another type of consciousness....
by santa100
Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:50 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Paticcasamupadda - namarupa/name-and-form, vinnana/consciousness, and sankharas/fabrications
Replies: 41
Views: 626

Re: Paticcasamupadda - namarupa/name-and-form, vinnana/consciousness, and sankharas/fabrications

This topic is about Dependent Origination and I quoted the Buddha's teaching in Dependent Origination about six types of consciousness. As for the teachings to unfaithful Brahma Gods in DN 11 and MN 49; I did not notice Dependent Origination taught to those Brahmas. I think common sense would concl...
by santa100
Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:37 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Paticcasamupadda - namarupa/name-and-form, vinnana/consciousness, and sankharas/fabrications
Replies: 41
Views: 626

Re: Paticcasamupadda - namarupa/name-and-form, vinnana/consciousness, and sankharas/fabrications

OK. So where in the suttas did the Buddha teach about a (7th) "rebirth-consciousness" and is this "rebirth-consciousness" unconditioned? Did the Buddha leave out rebirth-consciousness in his teachings on D.O.? :shrug: "And what is consciousness? These six are classes of consciousness: eye-conscious...
by santa100
Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:29 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.
Replies: 163
Views: 3695

Re: Bhante Sujatos and karmic snobbery.

Anywho, Sujato is entitled to his own opinions. He's just a Sekkha who still gets lots of work to be done, just like you, me, and everyone else. Remember we're Theravadins, we pledge our allegiance to the Buddha's Dhamma, not some modern day guru. I think any person that has lots of work to do is n...
by santa100
Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:22 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Paticcasamupadda - namarupa/name-and-form, vinnana/consciousness, and sankharas/fabrications
Replies: 41
Views: 626

Re: Paticcasamupadda - namarupa/name-and-form, vinnana/consciousness, and sankharas/fabrications

If consciousness and name-form have a mutual dependency; how can there be "rebirth-consciousness"? How can consciousness separate itself from nama-rupa to be reincarnated into a new nama-rupa?? :shrug: Simple, you're confused between sense consciousness and rebirth-consciousness. They're not the sa...
by santa100
Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:03 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Translating a MN 140 passage
Replies: 29
Views: 499

Re: Translating a MN 140 passage

Then a word of advice, go with the guys with cleaner track record. Thanks but I won't take your advice. Its off topic. As for my speculation previously posted, it appears it is wrong since the type of feelings are not found in compounds: Feeling born of contact through the eye, ear, nose, tongue, b...
by santa100
Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:24 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Translating a MN 140 passage
Replies: 29
Views: 499

Re: Translating a MN 140 passage

DooDoot wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:22 am
I am trying to learn:
Then a word of advice, go with the guys with cleaner track record.
by santa100
Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:20 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Translating a MN 140 passage
Replies: 29
Views: 499

Re: Translating a MN 140 passage

My speculation is if Thanissaro's translation was correct, the Pali would be " kāyapariyantikavedanaṃ vedayāmī ". If you don't know the Pali rules, it might be best to restrict (pariyantika) or place a limit (pariyantika) on your participation on this topic. Thanks :thanks: Actually since you don't...
by santa100
Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:09 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Translating a MN 140 passage
Replies: 29
Views: 499

Re: Translating a MN 140 passage

Thanks but I am still looking plus you are not discussing the Pali. Now the key phrase is: "kāyapariyantikaṃ vedanaṃ vedayāmī". "Pariyantikaṃ" is an adjective. It appears Sujato has attached the adjective to "kaya" where as Thanissaro has attached to the adjective to the "vedana". Also, "vedana" is...
by santa100
Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:23 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Translating a MN 140 passage
Replies: 29
Views: 499

Re: Translating a MN 140 passage

it seems like you are posting your own ideas rather than posting about the Pali. The Pali never supports the idea of Sujato and possibly you to lump together KayaPariyantika and JivitaPariyantika (yes, one has to be specific on exactly what Pariyantike he talks about, not simply going by Pariyantik...
by santa100
Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:33 pm
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Translating a MN 140 passage
Replies: 29
Views: 499

Re: Translating a MN 140 passage

I sense Bhikkhu Sujato's translation is the most realistic; where as the translations of Bhikkhu Bodhi and Thanissaro sound vague or obtuse to me. For example, Bhikkhu Bodhi's translations appears to infer the feeling is terminating rather than the body is terminating. Actually Ven. Bodhi and Thani...
by santa100
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:11 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How perception be wholesome or unwholesome?
Replies: 4
Views: 61

Re: How perception be wholesome or unwholesome?

The way I understand, according to Abhidhamma perception is neutral. Actually "neutral" is not the correct word. According to Abhidhamma, perception/sanna is under the SabbaCittaSadharana group, which in turn is under the Annasamana, or "Ethically Variable" group. So DN 33 and Abhidhamma are in syn...
by santa100
Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:52 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Conceit belongs to which of these (ignorance greed hatred) ?
Replies: 13
Views: 178

Re: Conceit belongs to which of these (ignorance greed hatred) ?

If a person feel inferior , how does it connects to greed ? I don't get it . Because regardless of the "modes" of comparison, they all still stem from the yearning/desire/greed for a sense of self-importance. Nina van Gorkom explains: There is conceit or pride when we consider ourselves important. ...