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by budo
Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:11 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: I give up
Replies: 42
Views: 559

Re: I give up

budo, MN 107 is the main text for you to read and remember :reading: 8-) I've already read that and DN2 along time ago. Can you provide more detail as to when one should start meditating at one point? In this life? Another life? What is the criteria that one discerns "Ok, I may now meditate"? Pleas...
by budo
Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:58 am
Forum: Sīla
Topic: Is smoking tobacco/ e-ciggarettes a breach of the 5th precept?
Replies: 35
Views: 2299

Re: Is smoking tobacco/ e-ciggarettes a breach of the 5th precept?

Intoxicants are not allowed--period: hard to believe this can be debated. It's actually intoxicants which lead to carelessness . Nicotine is a stimulant, rather similar to coffee. Is coffee not allowed? Coffee can lead to carelessness. Coffee increases restlessness, one can become irritable which c...
by budo
Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:43 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?
Replies: 55
Views: 677

Re: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?

Are you saying "taking another body" as in killing another body, or as in being reborn? reborn In the case of being reborn, you need to look deeper and eliminate the possibility that blamelessness is specifically associated with arahantship and not prior attainments. For example in this sutta does ...
by budo
Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:31 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?
Replies: 55
Views: 677

Re: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?

rightviewftw is probably right unless there is more evidence, but eitherway, it is clear noble ones can commit suicide in very specific circumstances, so that should answer OP's question about sotapannas.
by budo
Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:21 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?
Replies: 55
Views: 677

Re: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?

Therefore when the Channa says "i will use the knife blamelessly" the meaning to be inferred is "I will use the knife and I will not be taking another body" I'm not clear in understanding this statement. Are you saying "taking another body" as in killing another body, or as in being reborn? In the ...
by budo
Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:08 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?
Replies: 55
Views: 677

Re: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?

Therefore if Channa was a Non-Returner he would technically be wrong at the time of making the declaration because he would as a matter of fact be destined to be reborn with a mind-made body. Remember this, friend Sāriputta: the bhikkhu Channa will use the knife blamelessly.” “Sāriputta, didn’t the...
by budo
Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:49 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Loving kindness developed for 7 years
Replies: 12
Views: 1760

Re: Loving kindness developed for 7 years

Venerable Dhammanando I find it odd that there are competing opinions. If a run of the mill person practices even the noble eightfold path but does not attain stream entry there is still the possibility of them going to hell even after practicing the 8 fold path on earth. There is no guarantee of w...
by budo
Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:32 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?
Replies: 55
Views: 677

Re: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?

and putthujhanas attain arahantship by killing themselves well yes, Godhika, vakkali and Channa were all putthujana and became arahat during the act of suicide. This passage in SN35.87 sutta with Channa seems like they're advising him how to attain Arahantship, as he claimed prior to that passage t...
by budo
Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:16 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: I give up
Replies: 42
Views: 559

Re: I give up

Again and again - meditation is not something to start with. It is on the end of the Path. Part 2, part 1 here - https://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=33066#p491935 "Then Anathapindika the householder, surrounded by about 500 lay followers, went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, having bow...
by budo
Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:40 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: I give up
Replies: 42
Views: 559

Re: I give up

Again and again - meditation is not something to start with. It is on the end of the Path. "The meditation of mindfulness of in-&-out breathing, when developed & pursued, is of great fruit, of great benefit." .. ""So it is, Sisters, so it is!" replied Ananda. " Indeed for anybody , Sisters, whether...
by budo
Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:15 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?
Replies: 55
Views: 677

Re: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?

Suicide is not same as killing and this can be inferred from these discourses; DN33: Arahants incapable of taking life sn35.87: Arahant kills himself Of a Sotapanna it is stated Dhp story to the verse 124: "Bhikkhus, the sotapannas do not kill, they do not wish others to get killed." If one is to b...
by budo
Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:26 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: I give up
Replies: 42
Views: 559

Re: I give up

You don't need to be religious to meditate. In fact I think the number one reason a lot of people give up is because they're pulling the cart before the horse. Just meditate 1-2 hours a day, and if you're doing it right then you will get results. Once you get results your desires will fade away on t...
by budo
Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:33 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?
Replies: 55
Views: 677

Re: Can a sotāpanna committ suicide?

I'm leaning towards no, unless jhanic or nibbanic bliss is so good that they don't care about their own bodies and starve to death. In which case I wouldn't call it suicide if you let the body die on its own. Suicide would be akin to murder to me, as in intentionally killing yourself.
by budo
Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:47 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What the fruit of once-retourner and non-retourner are feels like?
Replies: 3
Views: 203

Re: What the fruit of once-retourner and non-retourner are feels like?

You can read about a woman who attains fruit here https://freedfreedom.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/freed-fredom.pdf You apply the 10 perceptions as listed in the Girimananda Sutta to Metta or first jhana. Here it is to metta: "There is the case where an individual keeps pervading the first direction...
by budo
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:46 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Stop thinking as extinction (nibana) ? Shortcut meditation?
Replies: 14
Views: 622

Re: Stop thinking as extinction (nibana) ? Shortcut meditation?

I don't understand your post and request clearly, but the nibbana element makes itself more clear the more hindrances, fetters, and defilements you suppress and remove. It all starts with suppressing the unwholesome mental factors (Sankaras) through understanding impermanence leading to disenchantme...