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by budo
Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:45 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does becoming enlightened change a personality entirely?
Replies: 15
Views: 583

Re: Does becoming enlightened change a personality entirely?

According to the Dhatu Samyutta of SN/SA (such as SN14.15 = SA 447), the highly respected monks (such as Sariputta, Moggallana, Kassapa, Ananda etc.) have personal characteristic/nature (dhatu). The term dhatu is applied to teachings concerned with how beings of various ethical or moral characteris...
by budo
Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:43 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Nibbana and unconcious state same?
Replies: 36
Views: 1091

Re: Nibbana and unconcious state same?

An Unconscious Person does not have bright and clear faculties. "Very good, venerable sir." And, delighting in and approving of Ven. Kamabhu's answer, Citta asked him a further question: "What is the difference between a monk who has died & passed away and a monk who has attained the cessation of pe...
by budo
Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:10 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist
Replies: 72
Views: 1614

Re: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist

I think that if you would make it more of your concern, just enough to not just beat people over the head with sutta references and actually try to relate to their views, it would make for a more fruitful interaction and a more caring and considerate Buddhism It's amazing how people go to such grea...
by budo
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: Theravāda for Beginners
Topic: What depend it on how good i suceed to follow the eightfold path?
Replies: 33
Views: 1098

Re: What depend it on how good i suceed to follow the eightfold path?

user99 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:07 pm
On what depend it on how good i suceed on the eightfold path?
1) Read suttas
2) Try to attain jhanas

Read this sutta: https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html
by budo
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist
Replies: 72
Views: 1614

Re: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist

Also I'm not going to bother to expand on a subject for people who do not accept the suttas, that would be a waste of time, as I said previous to this post that the Buddha said there are people who will reject the Sadhamma (true dhamma) no matter what, so there's no reason to waste my energy on the...
by budo
Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist
Replies: 72
Views: 1614

Re: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist

Antaradhana wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:45 pm
I asked, what exactly do you consider are counterfeit dhamma? Any specific texts?
That's a topic for another thread.
by budo
Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:37 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist
Replies: 72
Views: 1614

Re: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist

Refuge means: taking Buddha as Teacher, Dhamma as Doctrine, and Arya Sangha as a spiritual ideal to which one should strive. Of course, a rejection of all other teachings is required. But taking refuge does not mean that a person will immediately get rid of all false beliefs. This may take a while....
by budo
Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist
Replies: 72
Views: 1614

Re: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist

Refuge means: taking Buddha as Teacher, Dhamma as Doctrine, and Arya Sangha as a spiritual ideal to which one should strive. Of course, a rejection of all other teachings is required. But taking refuge does not mean that a person will immediately get rid of all false beliefs. This may take a while....
by budo
Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:05 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist
Replies: 72
Views: 1614

Re: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist

It is easy solve. To answer your conundrum. No, not everyone is a faith follower simply because they believe in a picture or a concept such as the triple gem. ... So no, simply having faith in the 3 gems won't make one a faith follower (and thus an ariya) if they haven't read the true dhamma (the 4...
by budo
Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:39 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist
Replies: 72
Views: 1614

Re: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist

Furthermore, there is a sutta where the Buddha says that not everyone will accept the true dhamma, even if it is told to them perfectly, they will still reject it, and have no hope in their life. He also said there are also beings who do not need to hear the dhamma from another to attain Ariya in th...
by budo
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:57 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist
Replies: 72
Views: 1614

Re: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist

It's quite easy to solve. Sariputta attained Ariya without going for refuge, he attained just by hearing Assaji talk about impermanence. He didn't even see the Buddha when that happened and didn't go for refuge before that either. Then he relayed the exact same message to Moggallanna who also attain...
by budo
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:46 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist
Replies: 72
Views: 1614

Re: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist

It is somehow strange to believe that only Aryans have refuge and that simple believers do not have refuge. The first time I hear such a strange interpretation. It is strange that people would take refuge in something they know nothing about. Why would someone take refuge in the Buddha (and thus Dh...
by budo
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:39 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist
Replies: 72
Views: 1614

Re: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist

I do accept the suttas, in general, and am open to combine them, and critically assess them when needed. Apparently we ran into an issue that is not easily solved with one simple text. It is easy solve. To answer your conundrum. No, not everyone is a faith follower simply because they believe in a ...
by budo
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:31 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist
Replies: 72
Views: 1614

Re: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist

I never stated that. You said that only an Ariya could take refuge. I assumed (possibly wrong, perfectly willing to admit that) you were talking about the more regular way of using that term, namely a stream-enterer or above. And therefore I did not see proof in the suttas that an Ariya would be th...
by budo
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:21 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist
Replies: 72
Views: 1614

Re: Ritual for becoming a Buddhist

You said there was no sutta evidence of an Ariya who is not beyond doubt, ... I never stated that. You said that only an Ariya could take refuge. I assumed (possibly wrong, perfectly willing to admit that) you were talking about the more regular way of using that term, namely a stream-enterer or ab...