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by kirk5a
Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:48 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does Theravada acknowledge Subconsciousness?
Replies: 45
Views: 4091

Re: Does Theravada acknowledge Subconsciousness?

Take my example again: "I like somebody very much. I don't know exactly why and I start investigating why I like this particular person. Then I start having sexual thoughts about this person while exploring my feelings and thoughts. Do these thoughts come from the subconsciousness?" Sure, underlyin...
by kirk5a
Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:26 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Does Theravada acknowledge Subconsciousness?
Replies: 45
Views: 4091

Re: Does Theravada acknowledge Subconsciousness?

I prefer "pre-rational" rather than "sub-conscious." We can become aware of everything in the mind. It's just that much of it underlies thinking and is before thinking. The "primal." I think Theravada does acknowledge this, it is the territory of the "underlying tendencies" as suggested earlier. Eve...
by kirk5a
Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:18 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is Cetana?
Replies: 33
Views: 2712

Re: What is Cetana?

How can one walk/talk without Cetana? This is a very good question in my eyes, because of the way it is framed. It shows a underlying misconception quite well. Due to the underlying assumption that there is a person in the first place, walking and talking is considered to be action of that person. ...
by kirk5a
Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:04 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: not self
Replies: 70
Views: 4915

Re: not self

Pinetree wrote:Also, I don't believe there is any control in the present moment where the practice should happen. So, any reference to control actually interrupts the practice.
You can believe that, but it's incompatible with right effort.
by kirk5a
Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:07 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: not self
Replies: 70
Views: 4915

Re: not self

Not entirely true, it's something which can be mastered. I can see that it can be interpreted in this way, and I suspect the results would be quite unsatisfactory in this case. Like I said before, I am making a practical point, when you achieve this, give us a buzz, we would like you to teach us. I...
by kirk5a
Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:02 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: not self
Replies: 70
Views: 4915

Re: not self

The point I am making is practical: we can't control the thoughts. Not entirely true, it's something which can be mastered. "He thinks any thought he wants to think, and doesn't think any thought he doesn't want to think. He wills any resolve he wants to will, and doesn't will any resolve he doesn'...
by kirk5a
Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:57 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Buddha had a specific way of defining "All"..what was it?
Replies: 44
Views: 3268

Re: Buddha had a specific way of defining "All"..what was it?

Hi everyone, Ven. Thanissaro on the Sabba Sutta - SN 35.23 "The Commentary's treatment of this discourse is very peculiar. To begin with, it delineates three other "All's" in addition to the one defined here, one of them supposedly larger in scope than the one defined here: the Allness of the Buddh...
by kirk5a
Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:24 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Buddha had a specific way of defining "All"..what was it?
Replies: 44
Views: 3268

Re: Buddha had a specific way of defining "All"..what was it?

Regarding S.N. IV 251 (SN 38.1) The destruction of lust, the destruction of hatred, the destruction of delusion: this, friend, is called Nibbana. Bhikkhu Bodhi footnote: Spk argues against the idea that Nibbana is the mere destruction of the defilements (kilesakkhayamattam nibbanam), holding that Ni...
by kirk5a
Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:00 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: consciousness definition
Replies: 14
Views: 1196

Re: consciousness definition

I agree with you about consciousness being a component of contact, and I think you explained it well to Tom. It was certainly an accurate explanation of sense consciousness, and probably more pertinent to Tom's question. But I was also praising dhammacoustic for pointing out this other aspect of co...
by kirk5a
Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:10 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: consciousness definition
Replies: 14
Views: 1196

Re: consciousness definition

Hi kirk5a, It's helpful to try to see this from the experiential point of view (how we experience things from within), rather than the objective point of view (how we see things "out there"). From the Buddha's experiential point of view, there is the process of consciousness, but there is no experi...
by kirk5a
Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:23 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: consciousness definition
Replies: 14
Views: 1196

Re: consciousness definition

Does eye consciousness mean one notices one is seeing or is it just a synonym for seeing? Or does it have another meaning? You could say it is just seeing, although if you wanted to dig in a bit, "seeing" is a process which requires several rather straightforward factors. (Ven. Sariputta) But when ...
by kirk5a
Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:12 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: consciousness definition
Replies: 14
Views: 1196

Re: consciousness definition

dhammacoustic wrote:Any consciousness implies there is a subject-object distinction. The objects are formations that originate from avijjā (usually translated as ignorance)
The Buddha could see and hear so that is simply not the case.
by kirk5a
Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:57 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Death or annihilation as the end point
Replies: 72
Views: 6805

Re: Death or annihilation as the end point

So, to blow out the flame of existence would be self-annihilation. It brings up a kind of feeling that it is somewhat similar (or you could even say closer) to suicide. When you understand the correct meaning of the word 'Nibbāna', you see that what is meant is that the fire of continued existence ...
by kirk5a
Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Death or annihilation as the end point
Replies: 72
Views: 6805

Re: Death or annihilation as the end point

Perhaps this from Ven Sujato will be of interest: nibbāna In a similar challenging mood, I have dared to translate Nibbāna with its actual meaning: extinguishment. Generations of translators and teachers have hedged around this, not translating it, or using avoidy terms like "unbinding" or "freedom...
by kirk5a
Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:15 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:
Replies: 159
Views: 32412

Re: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:

This doesn't sound like "non-existence as we know it" (do we know non-existence?) Doesn't sound like existence either. There is that dimension, monks, where there is neither earth, nor water, nor fire, nor wind; neither dimension of the infinitude of space, nor dimension of the infinitude of consci...